[Samba] Good Bye SAMBA?!?!?

Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root.rj at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 22:18:51 UTC 2016

>> don't get me wrong but i don't need any education what linux is
take easy man!I do not want to discuss your skills, but a lot of people on
the list that confuses the concepts.

2016-09-27 18:19 GMT-03:00 Mauricio Tavares via samba <samba at lists.samba.org

> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Gilberto Nunes via samba
> <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> > Hi list
> >
> > I am sad, today! I start to study how windows deal with CIFS, Active
> > Directory and DFS, I just decide follow the other path!
> > I will give a try to windows tools....
> > The question is: why Linux doesn t have such tools to help and improve
> > server deployments?!?
>       Improve what?
> > Everything will be easier than go to linux console and try and try and
> try
> > and nothing happen!
> >
>       If you like to be insulated from how things work and enjoy
> cryptic error messages like "the system encountered an error", paying
> for some 3rd party programs do allow you do do performance adjustments
> you would otherwise be able to do (in Linux) if you decided to put the
> time to learn, maybe Microsoft is the right way for you.
> I, on the other hand:
> - Have to run Firefox to find out why Internet Explorer was not
> accessing a given url because IE gives me no useful error messages.
> - Realize that no matter the relationship between Microsoft and Samba,
> the Redmond business will never tell the open source group everything
> about its SMB implementation.
> - Notice that many technologies used in Microsoft came from Unix or
> open source projects, which are then modified internally (MIT Kerberos
> and docker anyone?). Try doing proper network analysis in Windows to
> hunt down latency using Microsoft products and let me know how far you
> get.
> - Prefer to manage Windows servers using (gasp!) command line,
> specifically powershell! Since you are scared of "consoles,"
> powershell sure is not for you.
> - Do not like to be locked in one ecosystem
> - Do not understand why Windows server 2012 requires 40GB just to run.
> - Believe rebooting a server to see if that fix things is not proper
> systems management.
> I manage Windows and Linux servers; guess which ones require way more
> hand holding?
> > So, for now on, I will use Windows tool in my servers...
> > I know many of you guys, just love Linux... I also love Linux, but came
> on!
> > We have a hard way to do thing works properly...
> >
>       Just to let you know, it is very easy to be a mediocre Windows
> system admin and put together a few servers that will work well
> enough. Just click and click and click and talk to the paperclip and
> all will work. But, to be really good, you have to be able to do all
> those things you dread about Linux. And even then you are fighting an
> uphill battle because Microsoft does not publish the real performance
> details of their implementations.
> > In Windows everything is just forward straight ahead.....
> >
>       At the mediocre level, sure. At a real expert level, not a
> chance. I know a few expert Windows managers and you are not at their
> level. Don't take that as a personal insult, but it takes years and
> lots of work to get at their level. And, IMHO they are as skilled as
> an equivalent Linux manager.
> Now, the beauty about using Microsoft products is the reliability
> expectation from your users is much lower than for Unix/Linux.
> > Sorry! But it's time to shift!
> >
> > Or, perhaps, I am just do wrong things all this time....
> >
> > BTW, I will give a try to other ways....
> >
> > Sorry for outburst!
> >
> >
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> >
> > Gilberto Ferreira
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> > Skype: gilberto.nunes36
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