[Samba] Good Bye SAMBA?!?!?

Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nunes32 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 23:31:18 UTC 2016

Ok!!! This is just a way to open a discussion. I really enjoy Linux and
samba, zimbra, and all others free stuff...
But we need face the facts: the market just want quickly response for their
I am working harding for weeks to make things work properly to implement
samba and glusterfs and ZFS , to deploy storage sincronization between two
Today I just install Windows 2012 R2 and play around with DFS  and see how
so deadly simple!!!!
And I wonder: why Linux or samba or both do not have similar tools to make
things less painful....
Well... That is my IMHO.
On Sep 27, 2016 7:18 PM, "Rodrigo Cunha" <rodrigo.root.rj at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> don't get me wrong but i don't need any education what linux is
> take easy man!I do not want to discuss your skills, but a lot of people on
> the list that confuses the concepts.
> 2016-09-27 18:19 GMT-03:00 Mauricio Tavares via samba <
> samba at lists.samba.org>:
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Gilberto Nunes via samba
>> <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>> > Hi list
>> >
>> > I am sad, today! I start to study how windows deal with CIFS, Active
>> > Directory and DFS, I just decide follow the other path!
>> > I will give a try to windows tools....
>> > The question is: why Linux doesn t have such tools to help and improve
>> > server deployments?!?
>>       Improve what?
>> > Everything will be easier than go to linux console and try and try and
>> try
>> > and nothing happen!
>> >
>>       If you like to be insulated from how things work and enjoy
>> cryptic error messages like "the system encountered an error", paying
>> for some 3rd party programs do allow you do do performance adjustments
>> you would otherwise be able to do (in Linux) if you decided to put the
>> time to learn, maybe Microsoft is the right way for you.
>> I, on the other hand:
>> - Have to run Firefox to find out why Internet Explorer was not
>> accessing a given url because IE gives me no useful error messages.
>> - Realize that no matter the relationship between Microsoft and Samba,
>> the Redmond business will never tell the open source group everything
>> about its SMB implementation.
>> - Notice that many technologies used in Microsoft came from Unix or
>> open source projects, which are then modified internally (MIT Kerberos
>> and docker anyone?). Try doing proper network analysis in Windows to
>> hunt down latency using Microsoft products and let me know how far you
>> get.
>> - Prefer to manage Windows servers using (gasp!) command line,
>> specifically powershell! Since you are scared of "consoles,"
>> powershell sure is not for you.
>> - Do not like to be locked in one ecosystem
>> - Do not understand why Windows server 2012 requires 40GB just to run.
>> - Believe rebooting a server to see if that fix things is not proper
>> systems management.
>> I manage Windows and Linux servers; guess which ones require way more
>> hand holding?
>> > So, for now on, I will use Windows tool in my servers...
>> > I know many of you guys, just love Linux... I also love Linux, but came
>> on!
>> > We have a hard way to do thing works properly...
>> >
>>       Just to let you know, it is very easy to be a mediocre Windows
>> system admin and put together a few servers that will work well
>> enough. Just click and click and click and talk to the paperclip and
>> all will work. But, to be really good, you have to be able to do all
>> those things you dread about Linux. And even then you are fighting an
>> uphill battle because Microsoft does not publish the real performance
>> details of their implementations.
>> > In Windows everything is just forward straight ahead.....
>> >
>>       At the mediocre level, sure. At a real expert level, not a
>> chance. I know a few expert Windows managers and you are not at their
>> level. Don't take that as a personal insult, but it takes years and
>> lots of work to get at their level. And, IMHO they are as skilled as
>> an equivalent Linux manager.
>> Now, the beauty about using Microsoft products is the reliability
>> expectation from your users is much lower than for Unix/Linux.
>> > Sorry! But it's time to shift!
>> >
>> > Or, perhaps, I am just do wrong things all this time....
>> >
>> > BTW, I will give a try to other ways....
>> >
>> > Sorry for outburst!
>> >
>> >
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> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha

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