[Samba] SysVol questions

[Taylor, Jonn]

On 05/22/2014 11:19 AM, Steve Campbell wrote:
>
> On 5/22/2014 12:13 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote:
>> [Top posting]
>>
>> I'm not picking on you SP but, IMO, this claim that a single Samba 4 
>> server shouldn't be used as a DC as well as a file server is overblown.
>>
>> Yes, it's easier to handle AD and sysvol/GPO's, replication etc, 
>> separate from handling file sharing, but Andrew has said multiple 
>> times that it WILL do it just fine. If you've got a large 
>> organization and having multiple servers is feasible, and thus 
>> there's little reason not to split AD handling and file sharing - 
>> well and good.
>>
>> For for small companies, where it doesn't make financial sense to 
>> have those roles split, I don't think there's any reason to 
>> "recommend" otherwise.
>>
>> Ok, I'll go back under the bridge now - carry on. :)
>>
>> -Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SP> Hi,
>>
>> SP> A volume is a share
>>
>> SP> Your client connect to netware using netware client for windows , 
>> right ?
>>
>> SP> that mean : your netwarre server act as a file-server and a auth 
>> server.
>>
>> SP> You can do that with samba4, but it's not recommended.
>> SP> it's better to separate file-server and auth-server.
>>
>> SP> In your example : a VM with the AD (sysvol) server and a other 
>> server with
>> SP> your share (volume).
>>
>> SP> When I startd my job, our file-server was a netware 3.11 
>> (2000-2001).
>> SP> And I migrate from this server to a samba 2.2.x.
>>
>> SP> so it's a big migration.
>>
>> SP> regards
>>
>> SP>         Stéphane Purnelle
>>
>>
>> SP> -----------------------------------
>> SP> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et Réseaux
>> SP> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32 
>> (0)87/342467
>>
>> SP> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 17:28:45:
>>
>>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>>> Date : 22/05/2014 17:29
>>>> Objet : Re: [Samba] SysVol questions
>>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>
>>>> On 5/22/2014 11:06 AM, Stéphane PURNELLE wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do these volumes have to be on the same partition?
>>>>>> Can each volume be a separate partition?
>>>>>> Do these  reside under the SysVol partition or can they be anywhere?
>>>>> Sysvol is a particular share used when you want to use samba as a
>> SP> Active
>>>>> Directory Domain Controler.
>>>>>
>>>>> this share must not contain data (your volumes).
>>>> I finally got that through my head. Sysvol must be on a dedicated
>> SP> machine.
>>>>> a volume can be a partition or a directory into a partition.
>>>>> it's depend how you want to manage your server.
>>>> A volume is just a share, correct? Are we speaking about the same 
>>>> thing
>>>> here?
>>>>> What netware version have you ?
>>>> Netware 6.5 SP1. (Don't laugh, we use things around here until the 
>>>> bits
>>>> and bytes are completely worn out). We are gradually phasing out Quark
>>>> 4.0 as our pagination system, along with these Netware Volumes. Can't
>>>> help it if my company is thrifty (another word for cheap). I have to
>>>> work with these constraints.
>>>> steve
>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>>           Stéphane Purnelle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et Réseaux
>>>>> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32
>> SP> (0)87/342467
>>>>> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 15:35:01:
>>>>>
>>>>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>>>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>>>>> Date : 22/05/2014 15:35
>>>>>> Objet : [Samba] SysVol questions
>>>>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still haven't installed Samba, as I'm still in the planning 
>>>>>> stages.
>>>>>> Again, I'm new to Samba, and I discover our Windows pro isn't quite
>> SP> up
>>>>>> on the newer stuff since it's been years since he ran domains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a little confused about this thing called "SysVol". Reading 
>>>>>> up on
>>>>>> it, it appears a real important part of an AD, but I don't see 
>>>>>> how or
>>>>>> when it's created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone give me a clue as to when/how it's created? During the
>>>>>> provisioning, perhaps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which brings me to wonder the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On our current Netware system that is being replaced, we have
>> SP> multiple
>>>>>> volumes which we will use on our future Samba stuff. When we create
>>>>>> these volumes, which I assume will just be directories and turned
>> SP> into
>>>>>> shares, is the directory tree important? Do these volumes have to be
>> SP> on
>>>>>> the same partition? Can each volume be a separate partition? Do 
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> reside under the SysVol partition or can they be anywhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> steve campbell
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> I'm glad this has spawned a new round of opinions.
>
> For what it's worth, I've started considering making each server a Xen 
> server, and splitting them both up into a ADDC and a file server (two 
> VMs).
>
> And wouldn't you know it, Centos 6 seems to have dropped major support 
> for Xen (that's what I've used before and have a little knowledge about).
>
> So should I drop VMs or not?
>
> steve
Steve,

CentOS setup a repo for the XEN stuff. It works very well.

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart

Jonn