[Samba] SysVol questions

[Steve Campbell]

On 5/22/2014 12:13 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote:
> [Top posting]
>
> I'm not picking on you SP but, IMO, this claim that a single Samba 4 server shouldn't be used as a DC as well as a file server is overblown.
>
> Yes, it's easier to handle AD and sysvol/GPO's, replication etc, separate from handling file sharing, but Andrew has said multiple times that it WILL do it just fine. If you've got a large organization and having multiple servers is feasible, and thus there's little reason not to split AD handling and file sharing - well and good.
>
> For for small companies, where it doesn't make financial sense to have those roles split, I don't think there's any reason to "recommend" otherwise.
>
> Ok, I'll go back under the bridge now - carry on. :)
>
> -Greg
>
>
>
>
> SP> Hi,
>
> SP> A volume is a share
>
> SP> Your client connect to netware using netware client for windows , right ?
>
> SP> that mean : your netwarre server act as a file-server and a auth server.
>
> SP> You can do that with samba4, but it's not recommended.
> SP> it's better to separate file-server and auth-server.
>
> SP> In your example : a VM with the AD (sysvol) server and a other server with
> SP> your share (volume).
>
> SP> When I startd my job, our file-server was a netware 3.11 (2000-2001).
> SP> And I migrate from this server to a samba 2.2.x.
>
> SP> so it's a big migration.
>
> SP> regards
>
> SP>         Stéphane Purnelle
>
>
> SP> -----------------------------------
> SP> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et Réseaux
> SP> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32 (0)87/342467
>
> SP> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 17:28:45:
>
>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>> Date : 22/05/2014 17:29
>>> Objet : Re: [Samba] SysVol questions
>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>
>>> On 5/22/2014 11:06 AM, Stéphane PURNELLE wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> Do these volumes have to be on the same partition?
>>>>> Can each volume be a separate partition?
>>>>> Do these  reside under the SysVol partition or can they be anywhere?
>>>> Sysvol is a particular share used when you want to use samba as a
> SP> Active
>>>> Directory Domain Controler.
>>>>
>>>> this share must not contain data (your volumes).
>>> I finally got that through my head. Sysvol must be on a dedicated
> SP> machine.
>>>> a volume can be a partition or a directory into a partition.
>>>> it's depend how you want to manage your server.
>>> A volume is just a share, correct? Are we speaking about the same thing
>>> here?
>>>> What netware version have you ?
>>> Netware 6.5 SP1. (Don't laugh, we use things around here until the bits
>>> and bytes are completely worn out). We are gradually phasing out Quark
>>> 4.0 as our pagination system, along with these Netware Volumes. Can't
>>> help it if my company is thrifty (another word for cheap). I have to
>>> work with these constraints.
>>> steve
>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>>           Stéphane Purnelle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et Réseaux
>>>> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32
> SP> (0)87/342467
>>>> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 15:35:01:
>>>>
>>>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>>>> Date : 22/05/2014 15:35
>>>>> Objet : [Samba] SysVol questions
>>>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>>>>
>>>>> I still haven't installed Samba, as I'm still in the planning stages.
>>>>> Again, I'm new to Samba, and I discover our Windows pro isn't quite
> SP> up
>>>>> on the newer stuff since it's been years since he ran domains.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a little confused about this thing called "SysVol". Reading up on
>>>>> it, it appears a real important part of an AD, but I don't see how or
>>>>> when it's created.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone give me a clue as to when/how it's created? During the
>>>>> provisioning, perhaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which brings me to wonder the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> On our current Netware system that is being replaced, we have
> SP> multiple
>>>>> volumes which we will use on our future Samba stuff. When we create
>>>>> these volumes, which I assume will just be directories and turned
> SP> into
>>>>> shares, is the directory tree important? Do these volumes have to be
> SP> on
>>>>> the same partition? Can each volume be a separate partition? Do these
>>>>> reside under the SysVol partition or can they be anywhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any insight.
>>>>>
>>>>> steve campbell
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I'm glad this has spawned a new round of opinions.

For what it's worth, I've started considering making each server a Xen 
server, and splitting them both up into a ADDC and a file server (two VMs).

And wouldn't you know it, Centos 6 seems to have dropped major support 
for Xen (that's what I've used before and have a little knowledge about).

So should I drop VMs or not?

steve