[Samba] SysVol questions

Thu May 22 10:24:11 MDT 2014

On 05/22/2014 11:22 AM, Taylor, Jonn wrote:
>
> On 05/22/2014 11:19 AM, Steve Campbell wrote:
>>
>> On 5/22/2014 12:13 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote:
>>> [Top posting]
>>>
>>> I'm not picking on you SP but, IMO, this claim that a single Samba 4 
>>> server shouldn't be used as a DC as well as a file server is overblown.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's easier to handle AD and sysvol/GPO's, replication etc, 
>>> separate from handling file sharing, but Andrew has said multiple 
>>> times that it WILL do it just fine. If you've got a large 
>>> organization and having multiple servers is feasible, and thus 
>>> there's little reason not to split AD handling and file sharing - 
>>> well and good.
>>>
>>> For for small companies, where it doesn't make financial sense to 
>>> have those roles split, I don't think there's any reason to 
>>> "recommend" otherwise.
>>>
>>> Ok, I'll go back under the bridge now - carry on. :)
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SP> Hi,
>>>
>>> SP> A volume is a share
>>>
>>> SP> Your client connect to netware using netware client for windows 
>>> , right ?
>>>
>>> SP> that mean : your netwarre server act as a file-server and a auth 
>>> server.
>>>
>>> SP> You can do that with samba4, but it's not recommended.
>>> SP> it's better to separate file-server and auth-server.
>>>
>>> SP> In your example : a VM with the AD (sysvol) server and a other 
>>> server with
>>> SP> your share (volume).
>>>
>>> SP> When I startd my job, our file-server was a netware 3.11 
>>> (2000-2001).
>>> SP> And I migrate from this server to a samba 2.2.x.
>>>
>>> SP> so it's a big migration.
>>>
>>> SP> regards
>>>
>>> SP>         Stéphane Purnelle
>>>
>>>
>>> SP> -----------------------------------
>>> SP> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et 
>>> Réseaux
>>> SP> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32 
>>> (0)87/342467
>>>
>>> SP> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 17:28:45:
>>>
>>>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>>>> Date : 22/05/2014 17:29
>>>>> Objet : Re: [Samba] SysVol questions
>>>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2014 11:06 AM, Stéphane PURNELLE wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do these volumes have to be on the same partition?
>>>>>>> Can each volume be a separate partition?
>>>>>>> Do these  reside under the SysVol partition or can they be 
>>>>>>> anywhere?
>>>>>> Sysvol is a particular share used when you want to use samba as a
>>> SP> Active
>>>>>> Directory Domain Controler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this share must not contain data (your volumes).
>>>>> I finally got that through my head. Sysvol must be on a dedicated
>>> SP> machine.
>>>>>> a volume can be a partition or a directory into a partition.
>>>>>> it's depend how you want to manage your server.
>>>>> A volume is just a share, correct? Are we speaking about the same 
>>>>> thing
>>>>> here?
>>>>>> What netware version have you ?
>>>>> Netware 6.5 SP1. (Don't laugh, we use things around here until the 
>>>>> bits
>>>>> and bytes are completely worn out). We are gradually phasing out 
>>>>> Quark
>>>>> 4.0 as our pagination system, along with these Netware Volumes. Can't
>>>>> help it if my company is thrifty (another word for cheap). I have to
>>>>> work with these constraints.
>>>>> steve
>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           Stéphane Purnelle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>>> Stéphane PURNELLE                         Admin. Systèmes et Réseaux
>>>>>> Service Informatique       Corman S.A.           Tel : 00 32
>>> SP> (0)87/342467
>>>>>> samba-bounces at lists.samba.org wrote on 22/05/2014 15:35:01:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> De : Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>>>>>> A : samba at lists.samba.org,
>>>>>>> Date : 22/05/2014 15:35
>>>>>>> Objet : [Samba] SysVol questions
>>>>>>> Envoyé par : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still haven't installed Samba, as I'm still in the planning 
>>>>>>> stages.
>>>>>>> Again, I'm new to Samba, and I discover our Windows pro isn't quite
>>> SP> up
>>>>>>> on the newer stuff since it's been years since he ran domains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a little confused about this thing called "SysVol". Reading 
>>>>>>> up on
>>>>>>> it, it appears a real important part of an AD, but I don't see 
>>>>>>> how or
>>>>>>> when it's created.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone give me a clue as to when/how it's created? During the
>>>>>>> provisioning, perhaps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which brings me to wonder the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On our current Netware system that is being replaced, we have
>>> SP> multiple
>>>>>>> volumes which we will use on our future Samba stuff. When we create
>>>>>>> these volumes, which I assume will just be directories and turned
>>> SP> into
>>>>>>> shares, is the directory tree important? Do these volumes have 
>>>>>>> to be
>>> SP> on
>>>>>>> the same partition? Can each volume be a separate partition? Do 
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> reside under the SysVol partition or can they be anywhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any insight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> steve campbell
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>> I'm glad this has spawned a new round of opinions.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I've started considering making each server a 
>> Xen server, and splitting them both up into a ADDC and a file server 
>> (two VMs).
>>
>> And wouldn't you know it, Centos 6 seems to have dropped major 
>> support for Xen (that's what I've used before and have a little 
>> knowledge about).
>>
>> So should I drop VMs or not?
>>
>> steve
> Steve,
>
> CentOS setup a repo for the XEN stuff. It works very well.
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart
>
> Jonn
>
Other option is if you are going to put the file server in a VM use 
Citrix XenServer 6.2 it is now free. Just do not use HA as you really 
need a 3rd server.

Jonn