[Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
Brian Merrell
beantoo at tristatesurvey.com
Tue Jun 8 18:26:25 GMT 2004
I just came across some very interesting information.
We samba running on an old HP PIII 900. I just plugged it back in and we
opened some backup files we
had on it. It works just fine with AutoCad.
Linux gatekeeper 2.4.26 #5 Mon Apr 19 07:15:24 MDT 2004 i686 Pentium III
(Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Samba Version 2.2.8a
Our new machine is a Dual Opteron machine.
Linux fileserv 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 #3 Sat May 29 13:32:03 MDT 2004 x86_64 5
GNU/Linux
Samba Version Version 3.0.2a
The difference is that I need the hard drive space on our new server versus
the 40 gigs we have on the older machine.
The smb.conf file on the old machine is very very basic:
[global]
workgroup = TRISTATE
security = SHARE
[backup]
path = /usr/backup
writeable = Yes
guest ok = Yes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Merrell" <beantoo at tristatesurvey.com>
To: <samba at lists.samba.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
> Terry, Thanks a lot for your reply. We're really trying to solve this
> problem.
>
>
> > Brian,
> >
> >
> > 1. Which release of AutoCAD are you using?
>
> Autodesk Land Desktop 2004
> 2004.0.0
> Service Pack 1
>
> >
> > 2. Are the support files for AutoCAD on the client or the server?
> >
>
> On the clients.
>
> > 3. Are you using cups?
> >
>
> No.
>
> > 4. Is it true that your plotter settings are not being saved with the
> > drawing? Was this true when you were using a windows server?
> >
>
> They are being saved with the drawings. They were also being saved with
> the drawings on the windows server. (the windows server was actually just
> another client that shared it's HD).
>
> > 5. Normally when AutoCAD is opening the print dialog box in an
existing
> > drawing, it is trying to find the printer that was used by the last
> session
> > of Autocad. If it can't find that printer, it produces the printer
"none".
> > Are you loading your printers from the server such that each client has
> the
> > identical printer name?
> >
>
> First of all, you're right. The print dialog only produces the printer
> "none" when it's a new drawing.
> Otherwise, it saves the print settings. But we still experience a delay
> independant of whether we
> are printing from a new drawing or an existing one. The printers aren't
on
> the server, and we do
> not have identical printer name.
>
> > 6. Are the network directories being used by AutoCAD the same as being
> > used by the other programs that don't exhibit the long save times?
> >
>
> No. AutoCad drawings are stored on a seperate harddrive and a different
> directory. However,
> after reading this e-mail I moved a TIF image to the autocad directory and
> opened them from
> Adobe Photoshop. I then modified and saved the drawing and there was no
> delay. There was also no
> delay for opening a print dialog. The problem continues to be only with
> AutoCad.
>
>
> > We use AutoCAD 2000, 2002, & 2004 with RH E3.0 and Samba 3.0.2-6.3E with
> no
> > delays in saving or printing and have achieved better performance than
the
> > previous W2k server. With a little more information we might be able to
> > assist in finding the bottleneck.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com at lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com at lists.samba.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Bob Turner
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:45 AM
> > To: 'Brian Merrell'; samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > I might suggest a couple of setting changes on your XP machines:
> >
> > 1) Open services and stop/disable Web Client
> > 2) Open windows explorer, go to tools>folder options, click the View
tab,
> > and uncheck the "Automatically search for network folders and printers"
> >
> > (I'm assuming Windows XP Professional on these settings)
> >
> > Restart and try your printers again.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Merrell [mailto:beantoo at tristatesurvey.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:50 AM
> > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
> >
> > Thanks for your response Jerry.
> >
> > Yes. These are all windows XP machines. We have about four printers
here
> > in the office (all HP hehe). Only two computers have McAfee Firewalls
> > installed, the rest do not have firewalls. We are on a 100 mbps
ethernet
> > with a 16 port hub. Nothing too fancy.
> >
> > AutoCad is a strange beast. No matter what printer you have set up as
> your
> > default printer, when you click the print icon or give the print
command,
> > AutoCad comes up with no printer selected in the print dialog, and the
> user
> > selects the plotter each time (although you can save your print
selections
> > for each drawing). I have even tried setting the default printer to the
> > "PDF distiller" and it still takes the same ammount of time for the
print
> > dialog to come up.
> >
> > However, I was just tinkering with the print settings and noticed that
the
> > print dialog comes up normally some times. i.e. If you click cancel on
> the
> > print dialog and then hit the print icon again quickly, it seems to come
> up
> > normally.
> >
> > The other mysterious problem is the time it takes to save. I just saw a
> guy
> > behind me try to save a drawing and it took about 20 seconds. Something
> > that never happened before when the files were hosted on an older
windows
> XP
> > machine with a heavier load.
> >
> > I'm all out of ideas and really don't want to go back to windows.
> >
> > brian.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gerald (Jerry) Carter" <jerry at samba.org>
> > To: "Brian Merrell" <beantoo at tristatesurvey.com>
> > Cc: <samba at lists.samba.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
> >
> >
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> > > Brian Merrell wrote:
> > > | No good. It's still amazingly slow. It seems to perform
> > > | just fine until the user tries to print. There is a huge
> > > | delay before the print dialog comes up, and when the user
> > > | tries to save there is another huge delay. The
> > > | problem seems to be only with AutoCad.
> > >
> > > Sorry I'm late on this thread.
> > >
> > > Are these XP clients? Do the clients have a
> > > active firewall installed. If the delay is only
> > > when printing, it is probabl either
> > >
> > > (a) a very chatty printer driver, or
> > > (b) timeouts when the client tries to
> > > ~ open a print change notify handle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers, jerry
> >
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