[Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?

Brian Merrell beantoo at tristatesurvey.com
Tue Jun 8 18:07:47 GMT 2004


Terry, Thanks a lot for your reply.  We're really trying to solve this
problem.


> Brian,
>
>
> 1.   Which release of AutoCAD are you using?

Autodesk Land Desktop 2004
2004.0.0
Service Pack 1

>
> 2.   Are the support files for AutoCAD on the client or the server?
>

On the clients.

> 3.   Are you using cups?
>

No.

> 4.   Is it true that your plotter settings are not being saved with the
> drawing?  Was this true when you were using a windows server?
>

They are being saved with the drawings.  They were also being saved with
the drawings on the windows server.  (the windows server was actually just
another client that shared it's HD).

> 5.   Normally when AutoCAD is opening the print dialog box in an existing
> drawing, it is trying to find the printer that was used by the last
session
> of Autocad. If it can't find that printer, it produces the printer "none".
> Are you loading your printers from the server such that each client has
the
> identical printer name?
>

First of all, you're right.  The print dialog only produces the printer
"none" when it's a new drawing.
Otherwise, it saves the print settings.  But we still experience a delay
independant of whether we
are printing from a new drawing or an existing one.  The printers aren't on
the server, and we do
not have identical printer name.

> 6.   Are the network directories being used by AutoCAD the same as being
> used by the other programs that don't exhibit the long save times?
>

No.  AutoCad drawings are stored on a seperate harddrive and a different
directory.  However,
after reading this e-mail I moved a TIF image to the autocad directory and
opened them from
Adobe Photoshop.  I then modified and saved the drawing and there was no
delay.  There was also no
delay for opening a print dialog.  The problem continues to be only with
AutoCad.


> We use AutoCAD 2000, 2002, & 2004 with RH E3.0 and Samba 3.0.2-6.3E with
no
> delays in saving or printing and have achieved better performance than the
> previous W2k server.  With a little more information we might be able to
> assist in finding the bottleneck.
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com at lists.samba.org
> [mailto:samba-bounces+teleiott=tke-companies.com at lists.samba.org] On
Behalf
> Of Bob Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: 'Brian Merrell'; samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
>
> Brian
>
> I might suggest a couple of setting changes on your XP machines:
>
> 1) Open services and stop/disable Web Client
> 2) Open windows explorer, go to tools>folder options, click the View tab,
> and uncheck the "Automatically search for network folders and printers"
>
> (I'm assuming Windows XP Professional on these settings)
>
> Restart and try your printers again.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Merrell [mailto:beantoo at tristatesurvey.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:50 AM
> To: samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
>
> Thanks for your response Jerry.
>
> Yes.  These are all windows XP machines.  We have about four printers here
> in the office (all HP hehe).  Only two computers have McAfee Firewalls
> installed, the rest do not have firewalls.  We are on a 100 mbps ethernet
> with a 16 port hub.  Nothing too fancy.
>
> AutoCad is a strange beast.  No matter what printer you have set up as
your
> default printer, when you click the print icon or give the print command,
> AutoCad comes up with no printer selected in the print dialog, and the
user
> selects the plotter each time (although you can save your print selections
> for each drawing).  I have even tried setting the default printer to the
> "PDF distiller" and it still takes the same ammount of time for the print
> dialog to come up.
>
> However, I was just tinkering with the print settings and noticed that the
> print dialog comes up normally some times.  i.e. If you click cancel on
the
> print dialog and then hit the print icon again quickly, it seems to come
up
> normally.
>
> The other mysterious problem is the time it takes to save.  I just saw a
guy
> behind me try to save a drawing and it took about 20 seconds.  Something
> that never happened before when the files were hosted on an older windows
XP
> machine with a heavier load.
>
> I'm all out of ideas and really don't want to go back to windows.
>
> brian.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerald (Jerry) Carter" <jerry at samba.org>
> To: "Brian Merrell" <beantoo at tristatesurvey.com>
> Cc: <samba at lists.samba.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba just Slow with AutoCad?
>
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> > Brian Merrell wrote:
> > | No good.  It's still amazingly slow.  It seems to perform
> > | just fine until the user tries to print.  There is a huge
> > | delay before the print dialog comes up, and when the user
> > | tries to save there is another huge delay.  The
> > | problem seems to be only with AutoCad.
> >
> > Sorry I'm late on this thread.
> >
> > Are these XP clients?  Do the clients have a
> > active firewall installed.  If the delay is only
> > when printing, it is probabl either
> >
> > (a) a very chatty printer driver, or
> > (b) timeouts when the client tries to
> > ~    open a print change notify handle.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers, jerry
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