[Samba] my printers are still paused in Win2k and WinNT 4.0

[Van Sickler, Jim]

Ain't this fun?!?  :-(



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Drinkwater [mailto:Shane_Drinkwater at pa-ucl.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:27 PM
> To: samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] my printers are still paused in Win2k 
> and WinNT 4.0
> 
> 
> Jim,
> Again no dice. This is a very strange problem!?! I am now debating to
> compile LPRng with done_jobs=0 to see if that works( at this 
> point I doubt
> it).

I might have missed a clue - is the printer saying it's Paused,
or the last job printed saying that it's Paused after being printed?

:done_jobs=0 relates to the printed job, not the printer...

Do you have guest ok=yes in the printer's subsection
in smb.conf?

  e.g.
[HP4Plus]
	guest ok=yes

or 

[Printers]
	guest ok=yes



>  I also have some more interesting data for the problem
> 	1.)The HP 4m printer all of a sudden started to work it showed
> "ready"!! I come back about 5 mins later and it showed 
> "pause" again????
> This means other print jobs on the printer are affecting the 
> samba print queue...

See if it shows Paused when it's in Power Save mode, and
Ready when it's in Ready mode.

If the JetDirects are 10/100, try setting them to 10MHz/Half Duplex
and see if it changes anything.  100Base-TX Full Duplex doesn't
do much ack/nack'ing, IIRC.

> 	2.) I have switched everything over to tcp 9100 and 
> back again to
> lpd after testing the done_jobs parm still no fix.....

I've used both-9100 may enable Bi-Directional comms; raw
doesn't, IIRC.

> 	3.)  I have never printed a job on this server it is a test. I
> figured that print_jobs=0 means that lprng keept old jobs 
> around to so I
> cleared out all of the queues and reset up the printers. again paused
> printer,, With no print jobs ????

That's what made me think about whether the printer status was Paused,
and not the print job...

> 	4.) Is CUPS better for communicating status info with 
> samba? I would
> hate to switch to CUPS since CUPS looks more complicated.

Me too...

> 	5.) is there a way to get samba to kick out more 
> detailed info about
> the printer status( or what it thinks is the printer status).

Kick the log level up to 3 for more, up to 10 for a LOT more...

> 	6.) I am checking the status by double clicking on the computer.
> then the printers share on that computer. I then click on a 
> printer and wait
> for the refresh on my win2k to say ready or fail....

Were these printers installed when using an older version of
samba?  If so, try adding "disable spoolss=yes"
and "use client driver=yes" to [Global] in smb.conf
then restart samba and see if they're still flaky.


Jim
> 	
> 				Shane
> Any Ideas are helpful!!!
> 
> P.S. The Damm printer show ready again as I write you this 
> message. I will
> check it in the morning.. 
> 
> 	
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Van Sickler, Jim [mailto:vansickj-eodc at Kaman.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:17 PM
> To: 'Shane Drinkwater'
> Cc: Samba-L (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Samba] my printers are still paused in Win2k 
> and WinNT 4.0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shane Drinkwater [mailto:Shane_Drinkwater at pa-ucl.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:02 AM
> > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: [Samba] my printers are still paused in Win2k and WinNT 4.0
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jim,
> > I have placed the done_jobs in my lpd.conf and it didn't fix 
> > the problem.
> 
> try done_jobs=0
> 
> (maybe the space between = 0 is causing it to be ignored?)
> 
> > How can the done jobs parm effect the samba system if the 
> > queues don't list out any jobs to print???
> 
> If you look in your lpd spool dir, you'll see the last
> job is still there;  LPRng knows it's purpose, but
> samba doesn't...lpq will tell you that there are
> no printable jobs, but samba sees it as Paused...
> 
>   I'm running OpenBSD, and putting it in lpd.conf didn't
> fix it for me, either.  Putting :done_jobs=0 in the
> .common section worked for me.
> 
> Here's a snippet of my /usr/local/etc/printcap:
> ------------------------------------------------
> .common:cm=Common 
> Settings:done_jobs=0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/%P:mx=0:sh:lf=log \
> :lpd_force_poll=:lpd_poll_time=30:max_servers_active=0
> 
> hp4plus:cm=HP4Plus by Graphics PC:tc=.common:rm=149.158.23.170:rp=9100
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> Maybe this will help.
> 
> Jim
> 
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