To release Samba 4.0 'as is'

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at
Tue Nov 22 20:31:47 MST 2011

On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 20:23 +0100, Michael Croes wrote:
> I totally agree on points made by people against a Samba 4 release soon. It
> will probably result in similar situations as have occured with Gnome 3 and
> KDE 4.


Can you explain a little more how you see the parallel here?  The
desktop upgrades have been a massive change, but which particular lesson
do you think applies here?

> However, as someone using Samba 4 in production (authentication for proxy-,
> file- and mailservers, domain controller, mail routing) I would like
> something distributions can build on. Personally I don't care about fs
> support in Samba 4, every serious organization can devote a seperate
> computer/server to it.
> For me I'd rather see monthly or bi-monthly packages in an Ubuntu PPA than
> an early Samba 4 release. Or maybe just some good guidance on how to
> package Samba 4 so people have something to start with.

One of the key reasons I wish to release Samba 4.0 is because so many
users are using it.  Our users should not have to find 'Samba4' in a
Ubuntu PPA just to get our AD DC on their distribution. 

As a practical matter in the short term, once we get the bind9_dlz
changes in, I'll see about spinning another alpha to make it easier to


Andrew Bartlett

Andrew Bartlett                      
Authentication Developer, Samba Team 

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