Update on git conversion

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at samba.org
Mon Oct 8 10:32:18 GMT 2007

On Sat, 2007-10-06 at 09:45 -0500, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
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> Andrew,
> > Hmm, perhaps we should have defined the success conditions for this?
> Simply put: If the majority of Samba developers that use the new
> git repositories consider it to be an inhibitor to development, I
> will migrate everything back to svn.  But if you don't participate,
> I don't think that it's fair help make that decision.  Maybe others
> feel differently.  I will gladly go with whatever the majority
> decides.  I'm only doing this work because I honestly believe it
> will help to grow the number of Samba developers in the community.
> But tools do not solve social problems.  They can enable people
> to overcome social obstacles, but in the end tools don't build
> communities.  People can use those tools to build communities.
> But the growth is up to the people, not the tools.

I do think the social part of this bears more discussion.  Changing the
tools, while a challenge, could certainly be considered the easy part. 

> I understand your apprehension and since you have opted out of
> the experiment, we can just leave it at that.  All I ask is that
> you keep an open mind.

I've only 'opted out' in that I would like to see the Samba 3.0 branch
go first.  

I still very much hope to watch the trial/experiment run, and like any
good experiment I would like to see it be assessed against a set of
written goals.  Despite your apprehensions, I do hope the git
transformation is a success, and if we can see it meeting a set of
written goals, it will be easier to show that.

In terms of process, while it seems implied in the git migration that
there is a rather different process for getting features into a release,
I'm assured that git also supports the current development method, so I
don't see any major issues.

The final criteria I would asses the migration against (on top of those
I listed before) is for the git migration support is to still have an
anonymous SVN checkout.  We discussed this only briefly at the team
meeting, and I still feel it provides an excellent way for users to
track the current tree, without yet another toolset. 

Andrew Bartlett
Andrew Bartlett
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Samba Developer, Red Hat Inc.
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