NTLMSSP [was - RE: About Kerberos Programming]

[MCCALL,DON (HP-USA,ex1)]

Phil,
Try this link - might be something there you can use, if you tunnel down
enough layers....

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp


Hope this helps,
Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayers, Philip J [mailto:p.mayers at ic.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:40 PM
To: 'Jeremy Allison'; 'samba-technical at samba.org'; 'Nicolas Williams'
Subject: NTLMSSP [was - RE: About Kerberos Programming]


Ugh. Damn. That's unfortunate...

Jeremy - I was making progress with the ExtSec code, but I'm hung up on
decoding a new on-the-wire struct I haven't seen before - do you have any
idea if there's a good spec for NTLMSSP (ha!) anywhere - specifically what
flags cause what structs to be sent back? I want to get NTLMSSP working
first, and then kerberos should be a drop-in. My plan after that was to
attack the PAC (still managing to have not read the spec, despite several
people mailing links to me... :o)

Regards,
Phil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:jeremy at valinux.com]
Sent: 04 April 2001 18:10
To: kerberos at MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: About Kerberos Programming


Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams at ubsw.com> wrote:

: Well, not quite. You can only do this kind of query if you're
: authorized, and if you're running ActiveDirectory in native mode with no
: NT4 systems around, then by default computer trust accounts don't have
: the authorization to lookup up users' profiles.

: THAT is one of the points of putting the profile in Kerberos tickets,
: that hosts need not lookup user profiles and thus they do not need the
: authorization to perform the lookups, thus making it it harder to
: enumerate the users in your domain and thus find attack targets.

*Very* good point - I hadn't considered that, thanks. Looks like
we're going to have to be messing with the PAC format much sooner
than I thought.....

Thanks,

		Jeremy Allison,
		Samba Team.

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