cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem

[havoc]

I will run it at both ends if that's what it takes.

On Monday 01 October 2007, Steve Radich wrote:
> Someone more knowledgable in rsync correct me if I'm wrong but..
>
> Wouldn't robocopy better serve these EXACT needs? It doesn't handle
> partial file transfers, but neither will rsync given that you are
> running it only on one end - I.e. to calculate the crc to compare the
> files contents it would have to read the whole file, then transfer back
> the changes - That would be SLOWER than just transferring the whole file
> (assuming symmetrical speed).
>
> Running rsync on both sides it should be dramatically faster *IF* there
> are several large files. If all small files and often changing then
> robocopy may be just about the same.
>
> Robocopy is part of the windows resource kit I believe, it's been around
> a long time. There's white papers on Microsoft's site about it.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rsync-bounces+stever=bitshop.com at lists.samba.org
> [mailto:rsync-bounces+stever=bitshop.com at lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of
> havoc
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:46 PM
> To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
>
> Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but
> essentially the
> same thing.
> I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special handling on the
>
> remote (client workstation) side, like additional software to install
> and
> maintain.
>
> On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > Yup, that's what I originally intended but I probably wasn't very
>
> clear.
>
> > So basically you would add
> >
> > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> >
> > to run after the rsync finishes.
> >
> > How are you running rsync with no remote daemon running?  Mapped
>
> drive?
>
> > Why not run the remote daemon, I believe rsync can even initiate the
>
> remote
>
> > daemon from the client side if you want. (hopefully my terminology is
> > correct there)
> >
> > _____________________________
> > Stephen Zemlicka
> > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > PH. 608-558-5926
> > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
>
> Behalf Of
>
> > havoc
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:28 AM
> > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> >
> > Intriguing, you're saying to use rsync to copy/sync the data, the use
> > robocopy
> > to only recursively set permissions?  Robocopy can do this without
> > transferring data?
> > I haven't finished reading all about it yet, but have started with:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy
> >
> > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > I have synced terabytes of data across DSL connections using
>
> robocopy
>
> > > with no problem.  Robocopy is just as fast as rsync on whole files
>
> and I
>
> > > find
> >
> > it
> >
> > > to be even faster on folders with large numbers of small files
>
> (though I
>
> > > hear the next release of rsync is supposed to speed that up).
> > >
> > > However, if you must use rsync, you can still use the robocopy that
>
> I
>
> > > specified earlier.  Rsync would be responsible for all the file
>
> copying
>
> > and
> >
> > > robocopy would be responsible for only the attributes and
>
> permissions.
>
> > > Since rsync is a *nix utility, I doubt much effort will be put into
> > > compatibility with windows permissions.
> > >
> > > _____________________________
> > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
>
> Behalf
>
> > Of
> >
> > > havoc
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:00 AM
> > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I don't think it will work.
> > > We have two offices in the same corporate park connected by an
>
> unreliable
>
> > > radio backhaul, and several terabytes of data to sync daily, hence
>
> my
>
> > > desire
> > >
> > > to get rsync working :(
> > >
> > > PS: I will definitely check out robocopy for other uses, thank you
> :
> :)
> :
> > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > Robocopy does copy only the new or changed files.  However it does
>
> copy
>
> > > the
> > >
> > > > whole files (similar to the -W switch in rsync).  I use robocopy
> >
> > whenever
> >
> > > I
> > >
> > > > already have a secure connection (VPN) or when my backups don't
>
> include
>
> > > > large (multi GB) database files.  To see if robocopy will work by
> > > > itself for you, add the -W switch and see if that's acceptable.
>
> It'll
>
> > > > take a bit longer for changed files but will be just as fast for
>
> new
>
> > > > files.
> > > >
> > > > _____________________________
> > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > Behalf
> > >
> > > Of
> > >
> > > > havoc
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:50 AM
> > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > >
> > > > Does robocopy handle partial transfers, and backups of changed
>
> deleted
>
> > > > files?
> > > > My reason for wanting rsync is to maintain a mirror, and
>
> accomplish
>
> > > > incremental backups via --backup --backup-dir=<blah> with rsync.
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > I have also noticed that permissions aren't always copied under
> > > > > windows. I've heard you can use robocopy to do it.  I have not
> > > > > because it hasn't been critical to my operation but supposedly,
>
> you
>
> > > > > can use something like
> > > > >
> > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> > > > >
> > > > > After the backup script.  This should not copy any files and
>
> just
>
> > > > > copy the file permissions and attributes.  Let me know if that
>
> helps.
>
> > > > > BTW, robocopy is part of the windows 2003 resource kit.
> > > > >
> > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org]
>
> On
>
> > > > > Behalf
> > > >
> > > > Of
> > > >
> > > > > havoc
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:59 AM
> > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > Subject: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > >
> > > > > I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the
> > > > > ownership of files from windows to windows.
> > > > > I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on:
> > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.html
> > > > > and:
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I-need-rsync-+-acl-support-for-windows--t24626
> 47.
>
> > > > >h tml
> > > > >
> > > > > ENV: CYGWIN=ntsec tty
> > > > > I am running this on Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2 (a DC), the SRC
>
> is
>
> > > > > a Windows XP SP2 domain member.
> > > > > I have tried patching the cygwin rsync source to enable ACL
>
> support,
>
> > > > > and had this confirmed by rsync --version
> > > > > This didn't work so I got rsync-acl-2.6.9.tar.bz2 from:
> > > > > http://mattmccutchen.net/myrsync/
> > > > > and configured with --enable-acl-support
> > > > > This still does not work.  Is what I am trying to do not
>
> possible,
>
> > > > > or am I just doing something wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any input.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >    - havoc
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   - havoc