[clug] Scope of list

[Robert Edwards]

David Lloyd wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> Robert Edwards wrote:
>> Thanks Daniel,
>>
>> Time to defend my thought...
> Indeed.

Thanks David.

I think some of my suggestion may have been lost in the various mails.

>> If I wanted to know about issues common to Canberra and Melbourne, I
>> could read the Linux Australia mailing list. That is (partly) what it
>> is there for. Or I'd look up the archives of the LUV lists. This is the
>> CLUG list and it is called the CLUG list for a reason.
> Let's try Adelaide - when's the next LinuxSA meeting?

What does this mean? I don't understand...

>> Jacinta, on the other hand, has presented, with Paul (not that that is
>> relevant...), at CLUG-supported PERL user meetings here in Canberra
>> (which I have attended) and so _I_ would definitely consider her as
>> someone welcome to contribute to CLUG discussions, but, again, keeping
>> in mind that it is the CLUG list (not Linux Australia etc.).
> So there are exceptions? How about people who've contributed quite a lot 
> to another LUG, helped organise InstallFests (for Linux), been an LCA 
> organiser, was in the background when the idea of forming OSIA was 
> touted, helped build a distribution network when broadband didn't really 
> exist who happen to have also lurked on the CLUG mailing list for, well, 
> somewhere between 8 and 10 years?
> 
> Oh, btw, I have an Australian Passport if that matters.

I consider anyone who has had some connection with Linux/FOSSD in the
Canberra region to be part of the "target" audience of the CLUG mailing
list. Jacinta is not an exception - I would consider anyone who has
given of their time and energy etc. to come and present at a _Canberra_
LUG meeting to be part of this "community".

And I certainly don't have any problems with anyone "lurking" on the
CLUG list. I just think there are more appropriate lists for them to
have their "active participation" discussions. This was all in the
original posting.

>> What I would be more interested in
>> is how many of them are from Canberra and the surrounding region, but
>> that is hard/impossible to determine from their e-mail address alone...
> If that's what you were interested in you could have said so without 
> essentially upsetting those who might be lurking, or those who might 
> happen to know an answer or two to a question posed by a "real CLUG 
> member". By jolly, what if no Canberran happens to know the answer to a 
> question? Are the rest of us meant to, well, shut up?

This is not really the scenario that is a problem, but the response
would be up to each individual "lurker". Some may just post back to the
list with an answer. Others may post directly to the OP. I don't want to
proscribe any particular way of dealing with this situation. People can
ask their questions on other lists if they don't get the response they
are looking for from the CLUG list.

>> Anyways, we need to see what others come up with. CLUG has no leadership
>> as such, so this is just my own thought on the issue.
> CLUG is a community of people, many of whom share some form of 
> association with Canberra and its surrounds. Others, like myself, might 
> consider themselves part of a greater Linux community and might 
> therefore invite themselves in to lurk (or otherwise talk) [and yes, I'm 
> on Humbug, SLUG, Plug and various other user group lists too].
> 
> Hmmm, let's see.
> 
> On your definition, UNLESS Linus has presented at a CLUG supported user 
> meeting IN CANBERRA, I suppose he shouldn't be subscribed either?
> 
> Oh, I make myself laugh.
> 

I'm not sure why you are laughing. Linus has been to Canberra at least
twice and given a talk here at least once (although CLUG didn't exist
at that time, as far as I know). And you have (again) confused being
subscribed to the CLUG list with being involved in active discussions on
it (not that I would mind if Linus was...although others might...).

Again, this is all just coming from me. Let's see where the discussion
goes.

> DSL

Cheers,

Bob Edwards.