[clug] Long term PIM in Linux

Robert Edwards bob at cs.anu.edu.au
Fri Jun 9 04:34:25 GMT 2006

Don't know about the Debian problem - sounds like a hardware related
thing (I run Debian sarge and etch on a number of desktops and laptops
and I don't see it freezing up or showing random patterns). Bring the
machine in sometime and show me what happens.

As for "expecting someone to write an application", well... this is a
user-group, so my next response may freak some out, but in this case,
Li-Jie, you are a computer science student, so: if Linux isn't doing
something you need/want done, then write the code for it. That is part
of the point of the whole thing. Contribute something back to the rest
of the community.

I'm sure that if you wanted support for your Nokia 6680 under KDE-pim
or similar, you would be able to make that happen. You may need some
help from others, but this group has plenty of very capable people
(Brad Hards, for example, is a KDE developer, so he might be able to
provide some tips - I am sure there are plenty of others).

As for me, if I was buying a new phone and needed the contacts list
"automatically synchronised" (I usually do it manually), then I would
choose my phone based on available support under Linux - not choose
my O/S based on what my phone requires.


Bob Edwards.

Li-Jie Wong wrote:
> I want to, but my (Debian) desktop just freezes sometimes and sometimes 
> the graphics just comes up with some random pattern (though this could 
> be due to usage of a 8mb graphics card?). And if I were to switch and 
> expect that someone will write such an application, then that would be 
> making an assumption, especially when Linux runs on a volunteer user 
> base. I just checked the Lexmark website and they've just got a Debian 
> version of the print driver, so that's one less thing I can't do.
> My argument isn't about application support, whether I can run Windows 
> applications. It's about being able to get what I need to do, done; no 
> problem if it means using another application.
> :)
> Li-Jie Wong
> [Mobile] +61-(0)404 544 415
> [URL] http://www.starserve.info
> Robert Edwards wrote:
>> Li-Jie Wong wrote:
>>> I use a Nokia 6680 which is a Symbian Series 60 phone. KDE-pim 
>>> doesn't seem to have detailed support for nokia according to 
>>> http://www.pi-sync.info/html/projects.html? Or is it pim.kde.org? A 
>>> search for "site:pim.kde.org nokia" shows no rsults though. Correct 
>>> me if I got the wrong URL.
>>> Anyway if I do run wine/qemu/vmware, doesn't that mean that I'll need 
>>> to run Outlook too, for the Nokia PCSync software to talk to and grab 
>>> data from? And if I'm going to run Outlook in an emulator then I 
>>> don't see much reason to leave WinXP.
>> My main point here is that there really isn't any reason (excuse?) to
>> stick with Windoze because one or two (or more) apps don't (yet) work
>> properly under Linux. If you don't already know the reason to leave
>> WinXP, then you may as well stick with it.
>> (Li-Jie is a personal friend, so for those looking on, please don't
>> get the impression that I am being harsh on a "newbie"!).
>> Cheers,
>> Bob Edwards.
>>> What do various people on the list do for managing contacts and 
>>> scheduling events?
>>> Chris Smart [chris at kororaa.org] : KDE is prefered, but I'm willing to 
>>> run Gnome on another machine just to synchronise if that helps.
>>> Li-Jie Wong
>>> [Mobile] +61-(0)404 544 415
>>> [URL] http://www.starserve.info
>>> Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>> What sort of Nokia phone is it? I have just searched Google with:
>>>> "nokia pim linux" and there appear to be a number of solutions, one
>>>> of the more promising being KDE-Pim.
>>>> Also, you can always try:
>>>>  - wine
>>>>  - qemu
>>>>  - vmware (workstation edition)
>>>> etc.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bob Edwards.
>>>> Li-Jie Wong wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I've been wanting to switch to Linux for my main OS for a long 
>>>>> time, however one troubling problem I've found is that my Nokia 
>>>>> phone only provides software for Windows that I can use to 
>>>>> synchronise my contact list, calendar and tasks on the computer 
>>>>> with that on the phone. I can do that manually for now, but as the 
>>>>> number of contacts on my list grows longer and time becomes more 
>>>>> valuable, just trying to maintain multiple contact lists will 
>>>>> become a headache.
>>>>> Please advice.

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