[Samba] Default Samba version in Debian Bookworm

[Rowland Penny]

On 30/04/2023 10:52, Peter Milesson via samba wrote:
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> On 30.04.2023 10:51, Kees van Vloten via samba wrote:
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>> On 30-04-2023 10:46, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
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>>> On 30/04/2023 09:37, Peter Milesson via samba wrote:
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>>>> On 30.04.2023 10:20, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
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>>>>> On 30/04/2023 09:06, Peter Milesson via samba wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Yvan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the information, really useful. Essentially, it means I 
>>>>>> need to wait for the official release of Debian Bookworm, and then 
>>>>>> getting the newest Samba packages from Bookworm backports. It's 
>>>>>> just a little over a month away, so there is ample time for 
>>>>>> planning upgrades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
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>>>>> There is a big problem with this, bookworm hasn't been released yet 
>>>>> and as far as I can see, there isn't a bookworm-backports yet.
>>>>> The only mention of Samba 4.18 that I can see in Debian is in 
>>>>> experimental, a long way from any backports.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rowland
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>>>>>
>>>> Hi Rowland,
>>>>
>>>> According to the link in Yvan's post, the official release date of 
>>>> Bookworm is 10 June. So you imply that it will take quite a while 
>>>> before Samba 4.18 gets into Bookworm backports? In that case I will 
>>>> consider the appropriate packages from Michael's repository.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the information, every bit helps.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> I do not know, I am just guessing, but, as bookworm hasn't been 
>>> released yet, i wouldn't expect to see bookworm-backports 
>>> immediately, that would be like Debian announcing bookworm but also 
>>> saying that it is full of old software.
>>> There is also the fact that 4.18 is only in experimental and would 
>>> need to progress to sid before it can get into any backports repo.
>>>
>>> We really need Michael to comment here.
>>>
>>> Rowland
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>> Perhaps bookworm-backports  is less important since 4.18 for bookworm 
>> is available from Michael's repo.
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>> - Kees.
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> Hi Kees, Rowland,
> 
> Thanks for your comments. I guess backports are still quite useful, as 
> they are "official". Another option is switching to Archlinux. It's 
> always the bleeding edge, but I'm quite reluctant to take that path. 
> I've been severely bitten on a couple of occasions, when updates broke 
> the installations. So that's really a last resort. Only for non critical 
> applications.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 

Yes, backports are very useful, but all I am saying is that (and I am 
guessing here) I wouldn't expect bookworm-backports to appear 
immediately and when it does, Samba 4.18 will still have to migrate from 
experimental before it can be backported to bookworm-backports.

I see nothing wrong with using Michaels repo for testing purposes, I 
just wouldn't use it in production. Not that there is likely to be 
anything wrong with those Samba packages, it is just that you need to be 
110% sure about ongoing support and sadly, look what happened with 
Louis's repo.

Rowland