[Samba] ??????: Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect request a client related feature?

L.P.H. van Belle belle at bazuin.nl
Fri Dec 30 08:44:01 UTC 2016


> the tree connect requests of the abnormal case may follow like this order:
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96


After the "badlock" patches, MS applies some checks. 
( and this is default as of windows server 2008) 

1) make user HOSTNAME and IP are correct in DNS. And hosts file.
2) Dont use \\hostname  or \\ip  if you dont have a REVERSE dns setup.
3) use \\hostname.domain.tld  

4) If you want to use \\hostname then make user DNS A and PTR records are there. ( so the hostname resolves back to ) \\hostname.domain.tld 

Now point 4.  If you setup like this and you really correct. 
\\ip
\\hostname
\\hostname.domain.tld 


Will all work by default if you logged in with a domain joined pc and user.
Its all in nameing and DNS related problems. 

Greetz, 

Louis



> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Gaiseric Vandal
> via samba
> Verzonden: donderdag 29 december 2016 15:42
> Aan: Chenyehua
> CC: 'samba at lists.samba.org'
> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] ??????: Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect
> request a client related feature?
> 
> It seems like you have two problems going on at once with your server
> 
>      1. User authentication following a change to LDAP  (as per other
> posts)
>      2.  Accessing shares
> 
> 
> I suggest you resolve your LDAP backend issues first.
> 
> 
> In Windows, the "net view" and "net use" commands may help with
> diagnosing problems.
> 
> I don't know if Samba tries to do a reverse DNS lookup on the IP
> addresses of the client PC's.    I try to make sure I have DNS entries
> for all system even DHCP clients (e.g.
> dhcpclient-192.168.10.10 at mydomain.com.)
> 
> 
> What is your "name resolve order" parameter set to ?  I think the
> default is as follows
> 
>         name resolve order = host wins  bcast
> 
> 
> My issues with SMB2 was that I could get the first network connection
> from a Windows 7 PC or Windows 2008 server to a samba server share BUT
> seconndary connections would fail.     I would try downgrading to NT1 ,
> making sure everything works, then switching back to SMB2.
> 
> 
> On 12/29/16 04:42, Chenyehua wrote:
> > Thanks for your attention, Gaiseric.
> > Sorry , but I had a little confused. Did you mean that the problem was
> something relevant with the DNS? However in my impression, I might not do
> anything about the DNS.
> >
> > I have some clues that might be helped:
> > 1) First of all, my samba server version set is "max protocol = SMB2",
> and the final protocol according to the negotiation result is smb2.10. The
> problem is more likely to appear when the authentication changes(like
> user->ldap) or the password changes.
> > 2)The direct fact that leading to the failure may be the bad tree
> connect request with the format of "\\x.x.x.x", which should be
> "\\x.x.x.x\xx" required by SMB2 protocol
> > 3)So my key questions are:
> >    a???When and why does the windows 7 sometimes sends the tree connect
> request (like \\x.x.x.x, which is not accepted by SMB2 protocol) to the
> samba server?
> >    b???Is this a win7 bug or a problem with the relevant options set? Or
> anything else?
> >    c???How to solve this problem???
> >
> > -----????????????-----
> > ?????????: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] ?????? Gaiseric
> Vandal via samba
> > ????????????: 2016???12???27??? 23:32
> > ?????????: samba at lists.samba.org
> > ??????: Re: [Samba] Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect request a
> client related feature?
> >
> > Is the samba server a domain controller?  Is this a classic domain or an
> Active Directory domain.
> >
> > If you are using a classic domain you probably want a WINS server
> > configured.      I find it works better if the primary domain controller
> > is also the WINS server.         In a classic domain, keep the "smb
> > ports"  as the default ( "smb ports = 445 139.")      What is the "max
> > protocol" version set ?   I had trouble with SMB2   so I set  "max
> > protocol = NT1."
> >
> > Do you have  forward and reverse DNS entries for all servers  ("A" host
> and "PTR" records.)
> >
> > I also found that connections to "myservername.mydomain.com\myshare"
> > would be treated differently on windows 7 clients that connections to
> > "myservername\myshare" in a classic domain.     If the Samba domain name
> > is "MYDOMAIN" then connections to "myservername.mydomain.com" would
> result in a conflict of the samba domain name with the DNS domain name.
> > This caused problems with Microsoft Excel and Powerpoint not trusting
> documents from an "insecure" source.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/27/16 05:44, Chenyehua via samba wrote:
> >> Hi folks
> >>
> >>      I face a problem when using the samba share, Here is the detail:
> >>
> >> 1) Phenomenon
> >>
> >>      In windows 7, sometimes, I type the samba server ip address and
> >> can see the shared folder. (the samba version is 4.3.11)
> >>
> >> a???However when I try to open the shared folder, it fails with a
> windows error message like “please check the spelling of the name, or some
> problem may related to the network”, and returns the error code
> 0x80070035(cannot find the network path).
> >>
> >> The shared folder may be opened successfully in a while. Or it will
> >> always fail in a long period with the error returned above(not sure if
> >> it will automatically recover finally)
> >>
> >> b???The problem in a may be client-related and occasionally appeared.
> At
> >> some other windows 7 environments, it may never happen(at least I have
> >> tried dozens of times, but it turns out normal each time)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) Analysis
> >>
> >> a??? Something abnormal can be found in the samba log as below:
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.238956,  0, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0)] ../source3/param/loadparm.c:3240(process_usershare_file)
> >>
> >>     process_usershare_file: share name //172.16.37.96 contains invalid
> >> characters (any of %<>*?|/\+=;:",)
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.238973,  3, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0)] ../source3/param/service.c:249(find_service)
> >>
> >>     find_service() failed to find service //172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.238985,  3, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_tcon.c:266(smbd_smb2_tree_connect)
> >>
> >>     smbd_smb2_tree_connect: couldn't find service //172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.239004, 50, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0), class=tevent] ../lib/util/tevent_debug.c:66(samba_tevent_debug)
> >>
> >>     s3_tevent: Schedule immediate event "tevent_req_trigger":
> >> 0x56007af6bd80
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.239021, 50, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0), class=tevent] ../lib/util/tevent_debug.c:66(samba_tevent_debug)
> >>
> >>     s3_tevent: Cancel immediate event 0x56007af6bd80
> "tevent_req_trigger"
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.239035, 10, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2789(smbd_smb2_request_error_ex)
> >>
> >>     smbd_smb2_request_error_ex: idx[1]
> >> status[NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME] || at
> >> ../source3/smbd/smb2_tcon.c:135
> >>
> >> [2016/12/26 22:15:35.239053, 10, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0,
> >> 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2680(smbd_smb2_request_done_ex)
> >>
> >>     smbd_smb2_request_done_ex: idx[1]
> >> status[NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME] body[8] dyn[yes:1] at
> >> ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2837
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> b???Something abnormal may also be observed in the wireshark:
> >>
> >> the tree connect requests of the normal case may follow like this
> order:
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder1
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder2
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> the tree connect requests of the abnormal case may follow like this
> order:
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 3) Confused
> >>
> >> I am confused about the abnormal facts above and have some questions:
> >>
> >> When and Why does the windows 7 sometimes send a pure ip address tree
> connect request (like \\x.x.x.x) to the samba server after the IPC$
> request?
> >>
> >> Is it fine for the samba 4.3.11 to accept the pure ip address tree
> connect request?
> >>
> >> Is this really a client-related phenomenon?
> >>
> >> Are there any solutions about this problem?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Best regards!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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