[Samba] Totally missing the mark here

Rowland Penny rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
Tue May 27 08:29:02 MDT 2014

On 27/05/14 15:04, Steve Campbell wrote:
> <snip>
>> You are starting to confuse me now ;-)
>> I thought that you were using the sernet packages, but from the above 
>> command it would seem that you have compiled samba4 yourself.
> How would the sernet packages differ from the compiled version? 
> Doesn't it give me mostly the same executables?

Well yes, but they will be found in different places, take samba-tool 
for instance, with sernet it will be in /usr/bin , but if you compile 
samba4 yourself it will be found in /usr/local/samba/bin

>> I personally always pass all the info at once i.e.
>> samba-tool domain provision --realm=example.com --domain=EXAMPLE 
>> --adminpass=P4ssw0rd* --use-rfc2307 --server-role='dc'
>> Your realm is usually the same as your DNS domain name and the domain 
>> should be the first part of your realm but in UPPERCASE ;-)
> OK, I'm almost certain what I used for the interactive answers were 
> not correct. How would I start over?
I would suggest that you first of all create a VM to practise in (you 
can take snapshots of this) , then decide whether to go with the sernet 
packages, use the backport packages (if using wheezy) or compile samba 
yourself, once you make your decision, stick with it.

> Regardless of how bad the "Using Samba" book might be for a Samba 4 
> implementation, it does provide very good information about what 
> Domains are and how they are viewed (at least for me, the Windows 
> Domain idiot). I don't mean to argue.
The only problem with that argument (for want of a better word) is that 
there are two types of domains, NT4 and AD, Samba4 can do both, but you 
really should be aiming for an AD domain and there is a lot of better 
info out there in the internet, than what you will find in that book.

> I feel sort of guilty for using the list as a learning tool. There 
> just isn't much out there other places.

Do not feel guilty, we ALL had to start somewhere and as far as I am 
concerned we should help others as far as we can. As for finding 
information on the internet, I suspect that you are not using the right 
search terms, try using 'active directory' or 'AD' instead of 'samba' or 


>> This really should be in the wiki, not just telling people to do it 
>> interactively, especially if you are not going to show the questions 
>> that will be asked. Would you like me to re-write that section and 
>> send it to you ?
>>> I'm using the old version 3 book to make sure I understand the 
>>> questions that "--interactive" asks, in particular, the ones about 
>>> the domain.
>> Please take that copy of 'using Samba' and get rid of it ;-) Just 
>> refer to the wiki and ask questions here.
>>> I'm fairly certain that those domain questions might be the biggest 
>>> part of the problem.
>> Could be.
> steve

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