[Samba] Samba Join as DC failed

David Hopkins dahopkins429 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 18 08:58:16 MDT 2013


My response for the history of the domain:

Our prior authentication system was based on a custom Samba3+Openldap
solution (originally developed with people from the K12LTSP list).  This
authentication system had been very stable for 10+ years. We installed the
latest version of Samba using git (perhaps unfortunately, because we pulled
4.2) and upgraded to Samba4 to provide better support for Windows 7 and
Server 2008/2012 systems. We then installed a second authentication server
using the same process and joined that server to the domain as a second DC
(also pulled the 4.2 version).   Authentication was working very well until
recently when the first server began to randomly stop responding to dns
requests.  We decided to install Samba 4.1 (in an effort to move back to
the stable version). It was on trying to join the Samba 4.1 server to the
domain as an AD DC that we got the above issue.  We have two zones in DNS
( and, subnet mask  The server with DNS
issues is in the zone. The other server is working properly.
Replication seems to be working properly.

As for the size of the domain, did I misread the screen? The number
reported is the number that was returned during the join operation.


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Andrew Bartlett <abartlet at samba.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 12:50 +0000, Donaldson Jeff wrote:
> > Attempted to join domain via
> >
> > ./bin/samba-tool domain join ncs.k12.de.us<http://ncs.k12.de.us> DC
> -Uadministrator --realm=ncs.k12.de.us<http://ncs.k12.de.us>
> >
> > But this failed with
> >
> > Committing SAM database
> > Failed to apply linked attribute change 'attribute 'isRecycled': invalid
> modify flags on 'CN=test_user,CN=Deleted
> Objects,DC=ncs,DC=k12,DC=de,DC=us': 0x0'
> > dn:
> <GUID=4d560497-5f00-4d97-96a0-47ae1799ba92>;<SID=S-1-5-21-276688905-1455118844-2751846679-67110292>;CN=test_user,CN=Deleted
> Objects,DC=ncs,DC=k12,DC=de,DC=us
> >
> > Join failed - cleaning up
> > checking sAMAccountName
> > ERROR(ldb): uncaught exception - attribute 'isRecycled': invalid modify
> flags on 'CN=test_user,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=ncs,DC=k12,DC=de,DC=us': 0x0
> >   File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/netcmd/__init__.py",
> line 175, in _run
> >     return self.run(*args, **kwargs)
> >   File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/netcmd/domain.py", line
> 552, in run
> >     machinepass=machinepass, use_ntvfs=use_ntvfs,
> dns_backend=dns_backend)
> >   File "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> line 1169, in join_DC
> >     ctx.do_join()
> >   File "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> line 1074, in do_join
> >     ctx.join_replicate()
> >   File "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> line 848, in join_replicate
> >     ctx.local_samdb.transaction_commit()
> >
> > As suggestion found here
> https://irclog.samba.org/2013/09/20130908-Sun.log:  is to use
> >
> > ldbedit -H /usr/local/samba/private/sam.ldb --show-deleted
> > '(isDeleted=*)'
> This is not good advise for the general case.  Deleting the objects
> manually breaks replication (because the purpose of the deleted object
> is to replicate the fact that it is deleted!), and should be a last
> resort.
> > to manually delete all the accounts with this attribute. When doing
> > this I should stop samba on all DCs and then edit the local sam.ldb on
> > each. Then restart samba on the DC and re-try joining the domain after
> > deleting all files /usr/local/samba/private on the DC I am attempting
> > to join to the domain as a DC?
> >
> > Also saw on Samba list Nikos Mita had similar issue. It was suggested
> > to try using samba-tool dbcheck -fix. Should I try this first? I'm
> > just concerned whether this would complete or not. I have 94,443
> > records and this server only has 8GB of memory.
> >
> > I want to make certain I get the sequence correct.
> >
> > Also, before doing any of the above, I will make a copy of the private
> > directories on the DC just in case ...
> >
> > Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
> G'Day,
> It seems to be the week for very, very large Samba installations!
> I've looked at the code, and I know the line that fails, but don't I
> know why this happens.  Can you show me the failing object with
> ldbsearch?
> ldbsearch --show-deleted -H /usr/local/samba/private/sam.ldb -s base -b
> 'CN=test_user,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=ncs,DC=k12,DC=de,DC=us'
> The thing is, an object that has isRecycled set on it should not be able
> to get to the line of code that fails, so I'm quite puzzled.  I can fix
> the 'error' simply (just need to create a new blank modification, rather
> than re-using a search result), but I first want to know why it is
> wrong.
> Can you also let me know the full history of this domain?  A user that
> is deleted should have a name with "DEL" and a GUID in it.
> The second part, once I have that is working out why our tests didn't
> cover this code path, and working out how to make them do that.
> But while you won't need to run dbcheck now, you will at some point in
> the future.  What we clearly do need is for a few of our very large
> installations to club together and work on/isolate the remaining issues
> at the scale you have.
> Thank you so much for taking Samba to the extreme, and I will do what I
> can to best assist you.
> Andrew Bartlett
> --
> Andrew Bartlett
> http://samba.org/~abartlet/
> Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
> Samba Developer, Catalyst IT                   http://catalyst.net.nz

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