[Samba] Help with archive bit request

David Brodbeck DavidB at mail.interclean.com
Fri Feb 22 08:26:05 GMT 2002

NovaNet uses some 'other' method of determining which files have been
archived when you're backing up a Linux system with the Linux NovaNet
client.  I asked them about it once (because it seemed inconsistant at
times) and the person I talked to insisted it was using "archive bits under
Linux".  The fact that ext2fs has an archive bit is news to me.

Interestingly enough, I recently had a problem with NovaNet causing file
dates on recently modified files to regress.  I asked support about it and
got the response that I should add the following lines to my nncfg.ini and
restart NovaNet on all clients, then do a new full backup job:

[Svc-database service] 

I mention it here because I figure it might be related somehow to exactly
how they're managing this.  I haven't tried it yet but plan to make the
change this weekend before the usual weekly full backup job runs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Noel Kelly [mailto:nkelly at tarsus.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:26 AM
To: 'Gilbert, John'; 'samba at lists.samba.org'
Subject: RE: [Samba] Help with archive bit request


Did you ever get an answer to this ?  I think we are experiencing something
similar although the problem seems to be only with files we have bought over
from our Novell shares.  We are running RH6.2 (2.2.20 kernel with ACLs) and
Samba 2.2.3a.

The backup software (Novanet 8 Alliance SP5A running on NT) backs up
everything up fine on full (of course) but using differential it simply does
not recognise the archive bit.

The reason I am a little confused is that new files created on the Samba
share are backed up correctly using differential and in the Novanet software
these new files do have a distinct 'A' attribute under the file listings.
This does not seem to correspond to the owner's execute bit - if I toggle it
on and off on the Samba share there is no change from Novanet.  There must
be another flag attached to these files which I cannot see inside

Is your backup software (?) having problems with all files or does it work
with ones created on the Samba share ?

I have emailed Novanet Support on this and hopefully they can give me some
insight as to what is going on.  I'll post their reply if it might help you


-----Original Message-----
From: Gilbert, John [mailto:jgilbert at eosbiotech.com]
Sent: 19 February 2002 23:11
To: 'samba at lists.samba.org'
Subject: [Samba] Help with archive bit request

What would be the best way to get an archive bit issue resolved. I've
already posted twice on this list, and issued a bug report, but without
any feedback what-so-ever. I'm wondering if there is some other way to
this issue. I've run across at least five other people reporting similar
with samba and how it relates to NT space backups without any acceptable
answers. I'm including a few examples to back me up. See my previous posts
for details on how to replicate the problem.

	note: using smbclient and setmode does not fix backup issues,
	the backup software needs to change the archive bit itself.

	note: this looks like the exact same problem I'm seeing with

	This is a different but somewhat related problem that I have seen,
	can be fixed by creating a c$ share for backup-exec to try to use. I
	also hit this problem before the archive bit issue but the samba
	logs had enough information to figure it out.

Thanks in advance for any help resolving this.
John Gilbert
jgilbert at eosbiotech.com

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