Drop NIS support

[Ralph Boehme]

Am 3/24/21 um 9:44 PM schrieb Rowland penny:
> On 24/03/2021 20:23, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
>> On Wed, 2021-03-24 at 20:16 +0000, Rowland penny via samba-technical
>> wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2021 20:11, Ralph Boehme wrote:
>>>> Am 3/24/21 um 6:57 PM schrieb Rowland penny via samba-technical:
>>>>> On 24/03/2021 17:52, Andrew Bartlett via samba-technical wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2021-03-24 at 09:12 -0700, Jeremy Allison via samba-
>>>>>> technical
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 05:10:15PM +0100, Andreas Schneider
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> samba-technical wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could we drop NIS support for Samba 4.15?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This means getting rid of lib/replace/system/nis.h and
>>>>>>>> yp_*() ...
>>>>>>> +1 from me. Let's see if anyone else is still
>>>>>>> using it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the current list for 4.15 will be Tru64, HPUX, NIS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any more for any more ?
>>>>>> Just to be clear to others, this is not the so-called NIS
>>>>>> support in
>>>>>> the AD DC which at one point helped Active Directory Users and
>>>>>> Computers managed the rfc2307 user attributes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy for the real NIS support to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of other things to trim, what about some of the
>>>>>> printing
>>>>>> modes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew Bartlett
>>>>>>
>>>>> How about idmap_hash ? The one that says 'DO NOT USE THIS
>>>>> BACKEND' at
>>>>> the top of its manpage.
>>>> ...unless you know what you're doing.
>>>>
>>>> There are folks out there using this at scale so removing this is
>>>> not
>>>> really something we should consider.
>>>>
>>>> -slow
>>>>
>>> Well according to the manpage 'DO NOT USE THIS BACKEND', they
>>> shouldn't
>>> be using it, you cannot have it both ways.
>> Rowland, the 'on new installations' is silent, but implied.
> 
> 
> It might be to you, but to a normal user it isn't readily known.
> 
>>
>>> Either it shouldn't be used,
>>> or those warnings need to be removed from the manpage.
>> The world is not always so black and white (and would be far more
>> boring if it was).
> 
> 
> You are entering into dangerous waters there, you are not supposed to 
> mention what you mentioned 😂
> 
>>
>> Andrew Bartlett
>>
> 
> OK, how about this, I rewrite the idmap_hash manpage to say that it is 
> only retained for existing users but must not be used for new 
> installations.


nah, it can be used for new installations just fine. I'll try to look 
into this tomorrow and discuss a better wording with metze.

-slow

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