Solving: samba registry with client programs
simo
idra at samba.org
Tue Apr 17 13:08:35 MDT 2012
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:52 +0200, Stef Walter wrote:
> I posted earlier about this, but figured some background might be handy.
>
> I'm building an on demand DBus service which makes it simple to enroll a
> machine in an AD domain, set up domain logins, manage shares and so on.
> It would be called from gnome-control-center and other bits of UI.
>
> The samba registry is a really great fit for this, for reasons detailed
> below. But I ran into the problem that using the registry then prevents
> samba client programs (like smbclient) from working. They get an 'access
> denied' error when trying to load the config because registry.tdb is not
> readable.
>
> It has already been established that making registry.tdb world readable
> is a bad idea. So here are the various other options. I'd like to try
> option (3) unless that has problems, in which case option (4) seems like
> the best alternative.
>
>
> Option 1. Don't use the registry
>
> Adding a file share by modifying smb.conf and restarting smbd
> seems like it would disconnect clients. This would be really
> broken behavior for desktop users or server admins using a
> config tool.
>
> In addition for machine generated config it's always awkward
> and brittle to deal with modifying a text file: Locking issues,
> user modifications, testing config etc... So registry config
> is a nice to have for machine generated configuration, at least
> for shares.
>
> Seems like these are some of the main points of the samba registry
> based config was to solve. Not sure how else to solve the problem
> of kicking clients when reconfiguring smbd.
>
> Option 2. Have client programs ignore failures loading the registry
>
> Client apps would just use smb.conf and not use the registry.
> They would ignore failures to load the registry, and just use
> the configuration available in smb.conf.
>
> This works well if the registry is deployed mainly as a way to
> configure shares, and much of the other stuff lives in smb.conf.
>
> This only really makes sense with 'include = registry' in smb.conf.
> I could create a patch which implements this.
>
> Option 3. Mirror config from the registry
>
> As Volker suggested, on each commit to the config parts of the
> registry, the registry config would be exported to a read-only
> file in the "lock directory".
>
> Client apps would detect an access failure when loading the
> registry and silently include this file in their config
> instead of using the registry.
>
> I could try and create a patch which implement this.
>
> Option 4. Have a smb-client.conf
>
> As Simo suggested, have clients use smb-client.conf when that file
> is present. This would be instead of reading the smb.conf file and
> thus the registry.
>
> I could try and create a patch which implements this.
>
> Option 5. Use a daemon to read config
>
> As Simo suggested there might be a daemon which runs and makes
> the config available to the clients using RPC.
>
> Seems resource intensive, and out of my current time and
> capabilities.
Stef, FWIW, you do not need to code up a new daemon, running smbd would
suffice as it provides access to the registry RPC enpoint over NCACN_NP
or the new NCALRPC. But you would need to write some client logic to do
that and you would require smbd running.
Simo.
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Simo Sorce
Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo at samba.org>
Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat, Inc. <simo at redhat.com>
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