To release Samba 4.0 'as is'
Jeremy Allison
jra at samba.org
Wed Nov 23 14:35:27 MST 2011
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 04:23:23PM -0500, simo wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 17:13 +1100, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> >
> > What do others think?
>
> I think this plan makes no sense.
>
> Dropping an alpha release on the floor and slapping the "stable" sticker
> on it is not what our users expect.
>
> I no way the waf build is currently usable in production for the file
> server part.
>
> Many have chimed here so I will not repeat all the very sane points made
> by a great number of people, please listen to them and do not just
> dismiss their concern. They may be related to specific issues that may
> look minor to you. But I assure you they are definitely not.
>
> We are the people that will have to *support* whatever is dropped out
> there. And we want to be comfortable we *can* do that job. We currently
> can't without still great pains.
>
> Any regressions in the build system or in the file server functionality
> is not acceptable. Half assed daemons like samba4's winbindd are not
> acceptable in my book.
>
> Please work (as you promised and we all agreed since 2 years now) on
> eliminating by integrating all duplicated functionality in the trees.
> Once that is done we will be close to something we can call a *stable*
> release.
Personally I think following Matthieu's plans for getting to a release
make great sense.
Log specific bugs for all known issues, triage to see which are
blockers - add them to the "4.0 release" bug, then when we're down
to a reasonable set get Karolin to spin off the release tree and
follow standard proceedures to get to final ship.
That's the only way we can do this IMHO.
Jeremy.
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