Logging in make test

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at samba.org
Mon Aug 8 14:35:01 MDT 2011

On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 15:37 +0000, simo wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 08:46 +1000, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 10:04 +0200, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I would like to revert commit ea95e0967b33d75acc960b5308a667e956ba4f29.
> > > 
> > > If we log to stdout we loose a lot of information in Samba3 like filename, 
> > > line of code, function name and especially the *time and date*. The logs are 
> > > more or less useless. If you have multiple daemons it is more or less not 
> > > possible to read the log correctly.
> > > 
> > > http://git.samba.org/?p=asn/samba.git;a=commitdiff;h=886ca981b27324157e492925e598b5f4b9c09574
> > 
> > The reason this change was made is that Samba otherwise logs
> > to /usr/local/samba (or whatever the prefix is) during startup of make
> > test, and that's not a good idea.
> I t looks like the right way here is to add an option to the smbd binary
> to change the default logging directory then.
> > If our stdout logging isn't useful for a developer, then it probably is
> > equally useless for our end users and then we need to fix that.
> Yes feel free to fix that, meanwhile though logs are useless given
> samba3 doesn't use a single process model.
> > Also, using a predicable filename also makes it possible for the
> > selftest system to capture the server-side logs of a failing test.  (See
> > getlog_env() in selftest/target/Samba4.pm and
> > selftest/target/Samba3.pm).  This wasn't done properly in the past. 
> And it is useless in the present with samba3 as you'll find everything
> mixed together.
> As it stands the only way to get reasonable logging when running make
> test in samba3 is to revert your patch explicitly.
> I think I'd be ok if you want to make it an option for make test, but
> unless you make it configurable I would really like you to revert it,
> please.


Clearly the logging environment in make test isn't ideal for your needs,
or else you would not have reason to complain.  I'm sorry about that.

'make test' has many purposes, both as a regression suite and a
development environment.  It certainly isn't perfect, but I would argue
that it's pretty darn good given the alternatives, and supports us
pretty well.  Having logging output appear correctly via the 'make test'
infrastructure (selftest.pl et al) is key to ensuring the output of
autobuild and the build farm captures server-side errors, which is in
turn key to ensuring that issues in these automated environments can be

I'm more than happy to review changes you may propose to make this more
useful to developers for interactive use, and it would seem reasonable
to have the debug header in the stdout logging, but simply reverting
this patch isn't the answer. 

Andrew Bartlett

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