RFCs, Debian and Samba build dependencies

Tue Dec 1 10:34:17 MST 2009

anything that implements the rfc is going to use the rfc tables.

samba4 can generate the files and remove the text files as part of import.

I don't think 1) is viable since I'm don't think you can get hold of the authors, you can get hold of ietf trust that have the rights to the document.

Love

30 nov 2009 kl. 22:10 skrev Christian Perrier:

> Quoting Andrew Bartlett (abartlet at samba.org):
>> Jelmer,
>> 
>> I had to revert your commit to remove RFC files from Samba4 releases, as
>> it broke the build of our release tarballs - Heimdal uses python to
>> extract tables from the rfc files, and then uses them to build header
>> files. 
>> 
>> Can we work to see if we can find a solution that is acceptable to
>> Debian and does not break Samba to badly?
> 
> Please find below the text of the original bug report we got about
> this (we got a similar bug report for samba 3, as it carries some
> samba4 sources).
> 
> It proposes 3 solutions:
> 1) ask the author of the RFC to relicense it under a free license
> 2) repackage upstream sources without the offending documents
> 3) move the package to non free.
> 
> 1) seems out of question as it would certainly require hairy
> discussions with RFC authors while.....I'm not sure we (samba pkg
> maintainers) are freeness-junkies enough to sustain it (IIRC I voted
> against the resolutions that were attempting to make non modificable
> documentation non free because I think this is more or less shooting
> self in feet).
> 
> 2) was possible but we preferred working directly with upstream (as
> one of us is part of upstream) to remove the supposedly unmandatory
> documents
> 
> 3) would be interesting..:-)
> 
> This, of course, to give you the maybe needed background for all this...
> 
> Severity: serious
> Package: samba
> Version: 2:3.4.0-1
> User: debian-release at lists.debian.org
> Usertags: nonfree-doc rfc
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This source package contains the following files from the
> IETF under non-free license terms:
> 
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4513.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4531.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4520.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4521.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4516.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4523.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc2696.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/draft-armijo-ldap-syntax-00.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc2849.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4512.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4532.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4515.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4529.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc2891.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4517.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc2307.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4527.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4510.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4518.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4524.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4533.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc3296.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4511.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4514.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4522.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4519.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4526.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4525.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4528.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/ldap_server/devdocs/rfc4530.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc4013.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc4518.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc3492.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc3490.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc3454.txt
> +  samba-3.4.0/source4/heimdal/lib/wind/rfc3491.txt
> 
> The license on RFC/I-Ds is not DFSG-free, see:
> * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=199810
> * http://release.debian.org/removing-non-free-documentation
> * http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments
> 
> The lenny/squeeze release policy says binary and source packages must each be free:
> * http://release.debian.org/lenny/rc_policy.txt
> * http://release.debian.org/squeeze/rc_policy.txt
> 
> The severity is serious, because this violates the Debian policy:
> * http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-dfsg
> 
> There are (at least) three ways to fix this problem.  In order of
> preference:
> 
> 1. Ask the author of the RFC to re-license the RFC under a free
>  license.  A template for this e-mail request can be found at
>  http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments
> 
> 2. Remove the non-free material from the source, e.g., by re-packaging
>  the upstream archive and adding 'dfsg' to the Debian package
>  version name.
> 
> 3. Move the package to non-free.
> 
> General discussions are kindly requested to take place on debian-legal
> or debian-devel in the thread with Subject: "Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in
> source packages".
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon
> 
> 
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