Are we ready for a Samba4 alpha?

[Andrew Bartlett]

On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 23:36 +0200, Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer wrote:
> Hi Andrew!
> 
> It's a bit a difficult topic. Maybe you have seen now: I've
> distinguished the expected features now in bugzilla. It's not really
> clear to me what you would like to expect from this first alpha. Should
> it be interesting only developers and more experienced technical people
> or should we address the software to a wider public? If we like the
> first approach, I think we are basically there.

Great.

> When we whould take the second, then in my eyes it is much harder
> because some actions in SAMBA are a bit difficult to run (f.e. adding a
> DNS zone file to the server, for every domain user there should be
> created the according POSIX user ...). 

For practical reasons, I don't think I can fix these two in time.  The
POSIX user thing should be fixed if we get the idmap stuff reworked, and
have nss_winbind handle the actual lookups.  

The DNS stuff is a fiddle, but is it really a major barrier? 
I note your bug: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4813 but
while I'm happy to generate a snippit, I think the zone file should
probably be installed into the DNS server, rather than referenced (I'm
worried about interactions with security setups such as selinux and
bind-chroot). 

> I think someone on the mailing
> list has begun the work for writing a documentation. This is very
> important for the project wich is at this stage nearly undocumented! I
> also thought it would be an idea to package the software for various
> distributions. I don't really know but I think SAMBA 4 is to much in the
> shadow of SAMBA 3, that should be changed with the alpha!

In terms of packaging, this is something that is much easier, with some
debian and library work that Jelmer has done recently. 

> Yes, with the bugs: I think, the most important should be fixed (f.e.
> the bug where the whole SMBD crashes). Maybe you would like to prepare a
> list with the bugs you expect to fix for the alpha release so I comment
> on it.

Certainly I hope not to ship it with crash bugs, but otherwise I think
features will be much as-is.  (I'm looking for feedback on that). 

> I had then also some other ideas for the software, but I wait after the
> release of the alpha because they are more advanced things and I have to
> discuss they with you.

I look forward to it.

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett
http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Samba Developer, Red Hat Inc.
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