cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem

havoc havoc at havoc.org
Mon Oct 1 17:53:39 GMT 2007 

I forgot to mention that my concern with cwrsync is whether or not it is built 
with ACL support.

On Monday 01 October 2007, havoc wrote:
> Heh, already found that via:
> http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php
>
> On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > Check out cwRsync.  Should allow you to install and use rsync without the
> > entire cygwin installation.
> >
> > http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_
> >pa g e&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23
> >
> > _____________________________
> > Stephen Zemlicka
> > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > PH. 608-558-5926
> > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On Behalf
> > Of havoc
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:42 PM
> > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> >
> > Well, I'll try installing cygwin and an rsync daemon on one of the XP
> > workstations to be backed up later tonight to see if having rsync on both
> > ends solves the ACL issue. I just can't do it now as the workstations are
> > in
> >
> > use.
> >
> > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > I'm not sure.  If you can run the daemon on the server, you should.  My
> > > situation doesn't allow me to do that but if yours does, you should. 
> > > If you initiate the daemon from the client, then I don't believe
> > > there's anything extra running on the server except for during backups.
> > >
> > > _____________________________
> > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > Behalf
> >
> > Of
> >
> > > havoc
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:06 PM
> > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > >
> > > Would running an rsync daemon on the client side (using Matt's ACL
> > > enabled rsync) solve my ACL problem?
> > >
> > > On Monday 01 October 2007, havoc wrote:
> > > > Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but
> > > > essentially the same thing.
> > > > I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special handling on
> > > > the remote (client workstation) side, like additional software to
> > > > install
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > maintain.
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > Yup, that's what I originally intended but I probably wasn't very
> > > > > clear. So basically you would add
> > > > >
> > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> > > > >
> > > > > to run after the rsync finishes.
> > > > >
> > > > > How are you running rsync with no remote daemon running?  Mapped
> >
> > drive?
> >
> > > > > Why not run the remote daemon, I believe rsync can even initiate
> > > > > the remote daemon from the client side if you want. (hopefully my
> > >
> > > terminology
> > >
> > > > > is correct there)
> > > > >
> > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > > Behalf Of havoc
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:28 AM
> > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > >
> > > > > Intriguing, you're saying to use rsync to copy/sync the data, the
> > > > > use robocopy
> > > > > to only recursively set permissions?  Robocopy can do this without
> > > > > transferring data?
> > > > > I haven't finished reading all about it yet, but have started with:
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > > I have synced terabytes of data across DSL connections using
> >
> > robocopy
> >
> > > > > > with no problem.  Robocopy is just as fast as rsync on whole
> > > > > > files and I find
> > > > >
> > > > > it
> > > > >
> > > > > > to be even faster on folders with large numbers of small files
> > > > > > (though I hear the next release of rsync is supposed to speed
> > > > > > that up).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, if you must use rsync, you can still use the robocopy
> > > > > > that
> >
> > I
> >
> > > > > > specified earlier.  Rsync would be responsible for all the file
> > >
> > > copying
> > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > robocopy would be responsible for only the attributes and
> > > > > > permissions. Since rsync is a *nix utility, I doubt much effort
> > > > > > will be put into compatibility with windows permissions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > >
> > > > > Of
> > > > >
> > > > > > havoc
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:00 AM
> > > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately I don't think it will work.
> > > > > > We have two offices in the same corporate park connected by an
> > > > > > unreliable radio backhaul, and several terabytes of data to sync
> > >
> > > daily,
> > >
> > > > > > hence my desire
> > > > > >
> > > > > > to get rsync working :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I will definitely check out robocopy for other uses, thank
> > > > > > you
> > :
> > :)
> > :
> > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > > > Robocopy does copy only the new or changed files.  However it
> > > > > > > does copy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > whole files (similar to the -W switch in rsync).  I use
> > > > > > > robocopy
> > > > >
> > > > > whenever
> > > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > already have a secure connection (VPN) or when my backups don't
> > > > > > > include large (multi GB) database files.  To see if robocopy
> > > > > > > will work by itself for you, add the -W switch and see if
> > > > > > > that's acceptable.  It'll take a bit longer for changed files
> > > > > > > but will be just as fast for new files.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org]
> > > > > > > On Behalf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > havoc
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does robocopy handle partial transfers, and backups of changed
> > > > > > > deleted files?
> > > > > > > My reason for wanting rsync is to maintain a mirror, and
> >
> > accomplish
> >
> > > > > > > incremental backups via --backup --backup-dir=<blah> with
> > > > > > > rsync.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have also noticed that permissions aren't always copied
> > > > > > > > under windows. I've heard you can use robocopy to do it.  I
> > > > > > > > have not because it hasn't been critical to my operation but
> > > > > > > > supposedly,
> > >
> > > you
> > >
> > > > > > > > can use something like
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After the backup script.  This should not copy any files and
> >
> > just
> >
> > > > > > > > copy the file permissions and attributes.  Let me know if
> > > > > > > > that helps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW, robocopy is part of the windows 2003 resource kit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > >]
> >
> > On
> >
> > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > havoc
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:59 AM
> > > > > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy
> > > > > > > > the ownership of files from windows to windows.
> > > > > > > > I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path
> > > > > > > > /local/dst/path/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on:
> > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.ht
> > > > > > > >ml and:
> > >
> > > http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I-need-rsync-+-acl-support-for-windows--t2462
> > >64
> > >
> > > > >7.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >h tml
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ENV: CYGWIN=ntsec tty
> > > > > > > > I am running this on Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2 (a DC), the
> > > > > > > > SRC is a Windows XP SP2 domain member.
> > > > > > > > I have tried patching the cygwin rsync source to enable ACL
> > > > > > > > support, and had this confirmed by rsync --version
> > > > > > > > This didn't work so I got rsync-acl-2.6.9.tar.bz2 from:
> > > > > > > > http://mattmccutchen.net/myrsync/
> > > > > > > > and configured with --enable-acl-support
> > > > > > > > This still does not work.  Is what I am trying to do not
> > > > > > > > possible, or am I just doing something wrong?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for any input.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
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