[clug] GNOME 3 in trouble according to El reg. True or a beat up?

[steve jenkin]

Hal Ashburner wrote on 11/11/12 1:19 AM:

> Can I also say, as someone who uses and recommends Gnome 3, that every time
> I've used KDE 2, 3 or 4 I've found it highly agreeable and usable and
> consider it a job well done. To be fair, likewise winfce. I'm sure I'd have
> no issues with many of the other x.org window managers and so on.
> 
> I'm sure there's a reason for the fuss that seems to burst out every couple
> of years about "linux GUI/Desktop environment/whatever" but I've never
> worked out what that reason is beyond silly ones.

KDE vs GNOME vs other X-11 WM's: It's not the main argument.

They're all FOSS as in *freedom*.

We wouldn't be having this discussion if we only could use the 2
proprietary systems... Without forgetting OS/X could only have
transformed itself by adopting NeXT: Mach + BSD with proprietary Windowing.

Remember how since around 2003 or so there's been media hype about "this
is the year of linux" (implied, on the Desktop)?

Since 2008 and Android, you'd have to be thinking Linux won the war, if
you count units sold or hours-screentime-spent.

It's more than 10 years since Linux slam-dunk'ed the fixed embedded
devices market (routers, firewalls, storage devices).

Apache or other FOSS still runs the Internet...

If you're a small to medium ISP or hosting company, your systems choices
are Linux or *BSD.

If you're Amazon, Google or Facebook you run Linux, even though you have
the resources to create your own from scratch.

So, thanks very much to everyone on the list who's contributed to this
discussion. A great range of views, knowledge and most importantly
real-world experience.

For those of you not forced to live through the Cold War, the ability to
talk freely and dissent without fear is a fundamental human driver  so
powerful it changes governments, nations and continents.

So, for me, the big thing in this discussion is that we can have it at
all :-)

It says we care about our choices and we exercise our right to choose.

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