[clug] Internode dumps FOSS for MS Exchange

Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog at svana.org
Fri Feb 19 01:07:17 MST 2010

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:30:01PM +1100, Mike Carden wrote:
> I get cultural sovereignty in the language space. I'm not saying
> "Don't speak Dutch in Holland (sorry, The Netherlands)" I'm just
> saying that communication is about getting as many people
> understanding stuff as you can.

One thing I've noted at Dutch conferences is that while many (most?)
people can speak good english (just don't check the grammer) many
presentations end up being in Dutch. Why?

Because *presenting* in a language other than your native language is a
significantly different proposition to presenting in your own language.
There's a stress there not present in ordinary conversation.

So you get strange conbinations like english slides in a dutch
presentation. So people who I would expect would be able to hold a
decent english presentation would fall back to presenting in dutch if
it was at all possible.

(Which means that if the organisers had forced the language either
people would have done the presentations in english, or refused to

Multilingual doesn't mean you can speak each language equally well and
can use them interchangably.

Have a nice day,
Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog at svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> Please line up in a tree and maintain the heap invariant while 
> boarding. Thank you for flying nlogn airlines.
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