[clug] Verifying SPAM or Google Recruiting

Steve Jenkin sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au
Tue Apr 27 17:59:46 MDT 2010

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:59:21AM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:07:05AM +1000, steve jenkin wrote:
> > Any ideas on how to sort out Phising from a real Google recruitment
> > splattercast?
> No, there is no easy way.
> I got a similiar email a few (2?) years ago and my immediate reaction
> was "I this some sort of phising attack?" I'm not sure of the group
> they hit (possibly Debian though not 100% sure) but there were a lot of
> "I got this too" on the email list.
> While from the outside it seems like an interesitng place to work,
> you really hope they would have a better way of recruiting somehow.

The GOOG is obviously a great place to work for some - why they've won
awards "Best Place to Work" multiple times - at least for the GooglePlex.

Somehow my cynicism kicks in..
If they can't keep recruiters, how are they treating them?
In an Industry (& sector - Indian Help Desks) renowned for "chew 'em up, spit 'em out"
it would take very little to keep people. You only have to be 5% better
that the rest to be thought of as 'outstanding' :-)
If GOOG Mgt can't see the connection through HR staff to recruiting to
obtaining/retaining good staff, then would I want to work for them?

I don't have a PhD nor did I attend Stanford.
Would I want to work as a Morlock (or Orc) in the service of The Chosen Few??

Could be off-base, have no direct knowledge of The GOOG.

They are definitely NOT "The Borg", nor yet "The Evil Empire" (first
heard MSFT described that way in 1995).

But with success comes scrutiny, with Great Success comes great

SUN Microsystems (SUN for "Stanford University Network", see the connection)
*doubled* it's revenues for around than a decade - 1982-1990/1, when they
dropped back to more normal (30-50%/yr growth), the change in cash-flows
nearly killed them.

SUN did something right with its recruiting, staffing and corporate culture
to survive this period of 'corporate inflation' (my term).
['Round Up' kills plants by stimulating growth. Companies can die the same way]
They addressed they challenges very well indeed.

The GOOG hasn't yet hit a major speed-bump (for SUN that was the 'dot bust'
following the 'dotcom' boom) - how they deal with that will be a defining moment.
The GFC wasn't nice, but they managed to draw advertising away from traditional


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