[clug] Political (in)Correctness or Just Some Fun?

Jim Croft jim.croft at gmail.com
Thu Aug 20 01:39:14 MDT 2009

as a d00d, I am actually quite offended by this digital, nay
hexadecimal, objectification - and I will have none of it!


On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Pittman<daniel at rimspace.net> wrote:
> steve jenkin <sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au> writes:
> You might find it easier to answer these questions yourself if you stop
> thinking about the problem in the terms that your subject line frames it, and
> more about the actual problem itself.
> You could, for example, as this as:
>    Does this exclude, diminish, or attack the role, involvement, presence, or
>    acceptance of women in Java, IT, or the broader community?
>    Is it just the developer having fun, or are they having fun at the expense
>    of someone else?
>    Does this have the effect of excluding, diminishing or attacking women
>    once outside the original context?[1]
> Those are a much, much clearer questions, and probably much easier for you to
> try and answer yourself.  Framing the question clearly is valuable in seeking
> answers.
> [...]
>> "Compiled Java class files (bytecode) start with hex CAFEBABE. When
>> compressed with Pack200 the bytes are changed to CAFED00D."
>> Ie. Cafe == coffee == Java.  Babe is uncompressed, Dude is
>> packed/compressed.  Any significance I can't see?
> Probably not.  You seem generally intelligent, so you should be able to do the
> analyses yourself and work out the answer.
> I would note, though, that part of the question is absolute — structured like
> I suggested above — and part of it is about the intention of the original
> programmer, and the effect of his actions without that context.
> Answering those later parts is very hard.  I don't claim to know the intention
> or thoughts of the developer.  Perhaps it was sexist, and now isn't.  Perhaps
> not.
> One question that leaps to my mind, though, is for you, personally:
> Why are you asking?  It isn't clear what sort of answer you hope to get out of
> this, or even what your core question is — at least, not to me.
>> I loved the IBM convention of initialising unalloc space with
>> "DEADBEEF". Cute, possibly accurate if you used the uninit variable.
> *nod*
> Generally, I think that cute wordplay in magic numbers really is just that.
>        Daniel
> ...and, yes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
> Footnotes:
> [1]  This is also a very important question.  At the risk of raising Godwin's
>     law, this is somewhat like raising a swastika flag because it was a
>     religious symbol bringing good luck for literally thousands of years
>     before the Nazi movement grabbed it.
>     You are not *wrong*, but you better be ready for an awful lot of people
>     to misinterpret your actions, and to be very, very unhappy about them.
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