[clug] ACS query

[James Polley]

Keep in mind that joining ACS isn't as simple as wanting to join.

To become a full member, you have to have completed an "Accredited"
university degree (ie, your uni had to hand over money to ACS to get
their course listed - presumably there's some other criteria that have
to be met as well, but I don't know what they are). AFAIK the degree I
took wasn't accredited at the time, so in order to prove that I know
something I'd have to hand over my own cash to ACS and sit their own
test to prove that I have relevant knowledge.

Also, you need to have at least 4 years "relevant" industry
experience.  I've been a sysadmin for ~7 years, but sysadmin work
isn't "Relevant" according to their list of criteria.

So as far as I can tell from their site
(https://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&conID=membercriteria),
I'm not eligible to become a member at any level, even with a
Bachelors degree and 7 years experience - at least, not without
jumping through hoops and handing over vast wads of cash in order to
prove that I'm worthy to join.

Think I'm going to bother?


On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM, steve jenkin <sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> Mike Carden wrote on 29/2/08 9:04 AM:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, steve jenkin <sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
>  >
>
> >  For the best reference for the ACS, see Tom Worthington.
>  >
>  >
>  > Sorry Steve, were you saying that ACS membership is a good thing or a bad thing?
>  >
>  >
>  I wasn't saying - that's an individual subjective judgement.
>
>  There are 10-15,000 people who plunk down their $320/year to be members:
>  their actions make a statement.
>
>  The other ~400,000 Australian IT workers don't make that same statement.
>
>  A subset of them, a very large group (50-100,000?) including me, were
>  once members.
>  Another statement :-)
>
>  For someone to make an informed decision, they need both sides of the
>  argument.
>  I was attempting to make the information for a positive case available.
>
>  I can't answer the "What's in it for me" question for another person.
>  My story and my reasons may or may not be relevant ;-)
>
>
>
>  One of the bits of information that I'd assume would/should be a key
>  determinant in any decision is:
>     Would ACS membership be detrimental to my job prospects or career?
>
>
>
>  Unfortunately, I don't know where to find that out, or if that exists -
>  or that it is even knowable.
>  The ACS would never ask that question or publish a negative result.
>
>  >From what I've heard around the traps, there are people around who
>  "hire&fire" for whom 'MACS' is an instant "don't hire".
>  With the number of ex-members around and (rightly or wrongly) the degree
>  of bad feeling towards the ACS - this would be a valid concern for most
>  people.
>
>  Personally, I never directly discovered that problem - but I expunged
>  all reference to ACS from my CV, just in case.
>
>
>  Sorry to bang on so long.
>  Hope I answered your question and explained my position - without
>  prejudicing others unduly.
>
>
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