[clug] ADSL Routers

Burn Alting burn at comptex.com.au
Mon Apr 21 11:47:38 EST 2003

On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 11:07, Alex Satrapa wrote:
> On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 09:51 , Burn Alting wrote:
> > Can you give me some advice on good ADSL ethernet routers/modems - good
> > and bad experiences.
> My household used the original Alcatel SpeedTouch Home that Telstra 
> issued us with.
> The Linux box does everything that an "all-in-one" ADSL router would do, 
> and more (well, it probably adds a few milliseconds of latency into the 
> connection, but I'm not a backbone provider so I don't care ;)
> I keep wondering what's the attraction with plugging your machine 
> directly into a four-port ADSL router, which is directly connected to 
> the Internet.  Since you're already using IPCOP, you already have the 
> functionality you want, so I'd suggest just using a modem rather than a 
> router.


Perhaps I should have been clearer. I do have my IPCOP firewall (Pentium
MMX 233MHZ) with two ethernet cards - one (Green) to my switch and the
other (Red) will be to the ADSL Modem/Router. I suppose my question(s)
should have been
	a. What's a good value ethernet modem (or router)?
	b. Is the, perhaps minimal, extra packet-filtering of a router
	worth it ... a case of 2 firewalls being better than one and
	preferably two different types of firewalling software.

And, no, I would not just trust a router for firewalling, hence I'd
never get a built-in ethernet switch version of some of the ADSL
ethernet routers on offer.

It's clear that two DIFFERENT firewalls in series is a good thing. So,
"in theory", a router with a single ethernet port, which offers some
firewalling capabilities is a cheap and "nicely packaged" second
firewall. It appears that, to buy a minimal router, rather than a modem,
moves one from the $150 region to the $250 region for ADSL. So, is the
extra $100 worth it? Are there routers out there which are worth the
extra $$$'s - remember, I believe the packaging factor is very useful
and to add a second firewalling pc means $150 adsl modem + around $350
for an old PC.

Perhaps this is all moot as I've just seen the Netcomm NB1300 for


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