[Samba] Is it possible to build smb directly over ethernet?
andy liebman
andyliebman at aol.com
Sat Jan 14 18:59:21 GMT 2006
jra at samba.org wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 07:09:05PM +0330, jik jikman wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is it possible to design a smb-like protocol to work directly over ethernet.
>>
>> I mean if we can omit tcp/ip overhead, we can achive a very high troughput
>> substitute for small networks with less cpu utilization.
>>
>> I am searching for ways to bridge the gap between NAS and SAN systems, e.g.
>> between SMB/CIFS and FC with volume sharing softwares like IBM sanergy.
>>
>> This will lead to good performance with less costs compared to FC SANs and
>> even ISCSI SANs.
>
> It used to exist - it was called NetBEUI :-). It has many disadvantages... :-).
>
> Jeremy.
Interesting topic. I have recently been investigating whether there is a
lower-overhead protocol that we might be able to use for OUR NAS
products -- and still use SMB/CIFS and AFP.
I have come across several TCP/IP "alternatives" that are supposed to be
smarter about handling dropped packets -- NOT throttling down to almost
zero transfer rate and working back up again the way TCP/IP does (I'm
not a TCP/IP expert, but that's what I'm told the protocol does).
They're also supposed to be smarter about adjusting Window sizes and
handling ACKS and that kind of stuff. These alternatives claim things
like "10x faster than FTP over long distances".
Jeremy, I wrote to you about one of those recently. That one seemed to
be optimized for FILE TRANSFER and not realtime use of files over a
network -- where the order in which data arrives is presumably more
crucial.
I also see that there once WAS a Samba patch to support NetBEUI. In
fact, Jeremy, you seemed pleased about it and suggested it would be
included in Samba 3 as a configuration option "--with-netbeui".
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2000-July/008748.html
Would NetBEUI be a faster "local LAN" alternative if it could be
ressurected again.
Is there any other alternative on the horizon that could get transfer
rates closer to line speeds when dropped or misordered packets are a
very unlikely issue -- like on an isolated LAN connecting just a few
machines over 10 Gigabit Ethernet??
Andy Liebman
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