[Samba] Samba 4.16 and 4.17 ubuntu focal and jammy packages

Rowland Penny rpenny at samba.org
Sat Oct 29 16:27:31 UTC 2022

On 29/10/2022 17:14, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> 29.10.2022 19:06, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
>> On 28/10/2022 11:28, Michael Tokarev via samba wrote:
> ..
>>> Now, there's one more question. Why it is so risky to upgrade
>>> to a new samba "major" release?
> ..
>> Because Samba has an habit of removing, adding or changing things and 
>> this leads to old versions of things being left on disk and 
>> interfering with the smooth running of Samba. One that springs to mind 
>> is the python 'time', Samba had its own version and then removed it, 
>> but the distros didn't.
>> Starting with a new OS, also ensures that everything is correct and 
>> nothing 'old' is there.
> Well, I completely disagree with you here.
> I asked about real-life reasons why samba itself, - unrelated to
> packaging errors - can not keep its own stuff up and running.
> Not some theoretical issues and not obvious bug which happened
> in the past, but something real.
> Requiring to start anew each time something changes is completely
> unreasonable. We cam and actually *do* better than that.
> My question was mostly to Kees who seems to have better understanding
> of things than you.
> /mjt

I was only pointing out, that from experience, it is always better to 
start with fresh DC when upgrading to a major version of Samba '4.x.0'

But what do I know, I have only been here since 2012 and had the honour 
of joining the Samba team.

A Samba AD Domain leads to easily being capable of replacing DC's with 
new ones, without loosing any data.


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