[Samba] linux-schools samba ubuntu packages: it is just awful

Matthias Kühne | Ellerhold AG matthias.kuehne at ellerhold.de
Tue Nov 15 11:11:45 UTC 2022

Hello mjt, Hello Samba,

we used their samba 4.16 packages on an ubuntu system (no debian 
backports :( ) and the ad auth "just broke". Debugging it revealed that 
the .so file is missing from the libpam-winbind packages.

We've switched to your ubuntu package and had to completly purge the old 
ones install yours.

Then it worked.

Just my 2 cents.

So .. thanks mjt for your packages and +1 from us to avoid the 
linuxschools project.

Have a nice day, Matthias Kühne.

Am 15.11.22 um 12:01 schrieb Michael Tokarev via samba:
> Hi!
> After several people (here and elsewhere) asked me about
> linux-schools ubuntu ppa with samba packages, I took a
> look at the thing.  And was rather shocked.
> Basically, what they did was took the debian package of
> samba-4.15 (the one before the changes in samba which
> leads to quite significant changes in packaging), and
> The end result is that they have single new package
> named "samba4" with *everything* samba, and a lot of
> dummy empty packages for all subpackages which were
> in debian/ubuntu (client, winbind, pam, etc).
> I'd say it is a package vandalism, so to say, it is
> a very hackish way to do things, it is ruining a
> distribution.  Why? Because other packages depend
> on, say, libsmbclient, - vlc, nautilus, whatever,
> but now libsmbclient is just an empty package which
> actually provides nothing. You install it instead
> of the real libsmbclient, and the packages which
> used libsmbclient.so just stop working with error
> "unable to load libsmbclient.so".  The result is
> a Big Mess (tm).
> It is more: after installing this mess, it is quite
> difficult to roll it back into a normal system...
> I'm not compelling with them, there's no single reason
> for me to do that - I mean, I'm writing this as someone
> who published real samba "ppa" on our site recently. I
> don't need to fight competitors - I gain nothing at all
> by publishing my repo or by doing debian packaging in
> the first place.
> But I do want to warn ubuntu users strongly against using this
> schools samba ppa.  It is just an awful way to packaging.
> There's no reason to believe me, - just go take a look
> at their packages.
> *SIGH*.
> Thanks,
> /mjt
Matthias Kühne
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