[Samba] Samba on CentOS 8 with sssd and AD users/groups and local users/groups

Clement Martin clmartinse at emypeople.net
Fri Jan 14 22:01:59 UTC 2022

On 1/14/22 3:30 PM, Clement Martin wrote:
> On 1/14/22 3:06 PM, Peter Milesson via samba wrote:
>> On 14.01.2022 19:27, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2022-01-13 at 14:06 -0500, Luc Lalonde via samba wrote:
>>>> I've tried, but came to the conclusion that Debian is evil... and I
>>>> won't go to the dark side ;-)
>>>> Seriously, I prefer the way Redhat and derivatives (Fedora, Centos,
>>>> etc)
>>>> are organized.   Really, I could never get used to 'apt-whatever'.
>>>> I
>>>> also really like 'Kickstart' for auto-documenting setups.
>>>> Hardware manufacturers will also offload support if you're not using
>>>> an
>>>> enterprise distro like RHEL or SUse.   I've had too man bad
>>>> experiences
>>>> with this.
>>> I decided to set up Samba on a version of RHEL 8 and used almalinux. I
>>> had more problem getting the GUI login to work than getting Samba and
>>> winbind to work. There is only one problem, red-hat has removed pam-
>>> krb5, so no kerberos unless I can find a repo somewhere. I ask, what
>>> distro removes such a vital package without providing a replacement
>>> (and yes, I know it is now built into sssd, which is not much help if
>>> you are not using sssd).
>>> Rowland
>> Hi folks,
>> I must chime in here as a long term user of CentOS (CentOS 7) in a 
>> commercial environment. I have found CentOS fairly quirky to work 
>> with. At the moment I have got a bunch of servers with CentOS 7 for 
>> different purposes. I don't deny it's stable, but much of it is 
>> ancient, even before CentOS 8 was published. On several occasions I 
>> have had problems compiling  and/or installing software or drivers 
>> due to the environment being extremely conservative. Also, CentOS 
>> tends to deviate too much from Linux mainstream development with the 
>> advent of RHEL8, creating a RedHat island, where you many times need 
>> professional (and expensive) advice to overcome quirks. I don't deny 
>> there are pros and cons with every distro, but the RedHat world is 
>> just not going in a direction that I'm prepared to buy into.
>> The last 2 years I'm subsequently replacing CentOS with Debian, and 
>> I'm very pleased with the stability, compatibility and ease of use of 
>> Debian. IMHO, Debian is a golden middle path, using stable, well 
>> tested components. I have migrated our Samba AD environment, 
>> including Windows workstations and member servers during the last 
>> year, and I have no regrets. I'm using Louis's Samba repos (4.15.3 at 
>> the moment), and I'm very satisfied with the current state of things.
>> I have been using different flavors of Linux since 1996, for many 
>> years mostly Slackware in non-GUI servers. However, development 
>> seemed to slow down and apparently cease altogether, and the distro 
>> became stale, excluding the use of many main stream components, or 
>> making use of them very cumbersome, most notably Python 3. One of the 
>> main reasons I migrated the Slackware servers to CentOS, was the need 
>> to migrate a very ancient Samba NT domain to something more 
>> efficient. From stability and security reasons, also due to the 
>> availability of HP supplied RAID controller drivers I chose CentOS 7 
>> at that time. But that saga ends shortly.
>> So my conclusion is to stay mainstream. Too much deviation hurts, 
>> sometimes very much so.
>> I wish you all pleasant weekend and thanks to the Samba people for a 
>> great product and great support.
>> Peter
> Hi,
> As a Debian user for the last four years, I can wholeheartedly agree 
> with your statement of stability, compatibility, and ease of use that 
> Debian offers.
> Regards, Clement

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