[Samba] Samba vs Windows - File sharing in a domain setting

[Viktor Trojanovic]

Hi Louis,

I really do appreciate that work is being done on the topic, I've been 
following this for a while now and I know about Noel's great effort. 
It's just not something I'd consider production ready at this moment. 
I'd love to help out with testing but at the moment I simply can't spend 
the time or resources.

Thanks for the link to Diskover, I always love hearing about new and 
exciting projects. It's fascinating what this guy did considering he 
never actually worked as a developer but "only" as a sys engineer or 
sysadmin.

If I were to build an application today, I think I'd most likely do a 
full text search implementation using Elasticsearch. But that's another 
discussion entirely.

Best,
Viktor


On 03.06.2020 10:16, L.P.H. van Belle via samba wrote:
> Hai Viktor,
>
> I dont know or can't tell if this setup can use the windows indexing, i havent looked in to that.
> I dont use windows indexer.
>
> But i do know if you setup as shown and you add a webpage to the server,
> that makes is also usable for Windows users to search.
>
> There was some work done in the area
> https://sambaxp.org/fileadmin/user_upload/sambaxp2017-Slides/Windows_Search_Protocol_recap___update_-_Jim_McDonough.pdf
>
> https://github.com/noelpower/samba/tree/WSP-WIP
>
> But i dont know the exact status of it.
>
> And one that looks promising is also this one.
> https://github.com/shirosaidev/diskover
> Look at the vidoes on that page ;-) really nice .. ( not topic related tho..)
>
> Greetz,
>
> Louis
>
>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens
>> Viktor Trojanovic via samba
>> Verzonden: dinsdag 2 juni 2020 18:25
>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Samba vs Windows - File sharing in a
>> domain setting
>>
>> Hi Louis,
>>
>> The idea I had with this thread is to just get an honest comparison
>> between Windows and Samba when it comes to file sharing needs in the
>> Windows world, the missing Windows Search capability was just
>> an example
>> to get the discussion going.
>>
>> If I understand your reference correctly, there is a solution,
>> compatible with Apple's Spotlight, to index files on a Samba server
>> using Elasticsearch and fscrawler. This is very interesting and
>> certainly great news for Apple users but nothing comparable
>> is available
>> for Windows users wanting or, in my case, having to work with the
>> Windows Search service.
>>
>> On 02.06.2020 16:07, L.P.H. van Belle via samba wrote:
>>> I dont know if you want this but i think, its close to what you.
>>>
>>>
>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Spotlight_with_Elasticsearch_Backend
>>>
>>> Greetz,
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>    
>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens
>>>> Viktor Trojanovic via samba
>>>> Verzonden: dinsdag 2 juni 2020 15:32
>>>> Aan: samba
>>>> Onderwerp: [Samba] Samba vs Windows - File sharing in a
>> domain setting
>>>> I've been working with Samba in an AD domain setting for
>>>> several years now.
>>>> Small potatoes, nothing fancy. A few months ago, I came across the
>>>> limitation of Samba, in comparison to file sharing from a
>>>> Windows server,
>>>> that, at the current moment, it doesn't offer an indexing
>>>> service that is
>>>> compatible with Windows Search. So, no matter how much I like
>>>> Samba, if I
>>>> need this feature, I have no choice but to use Windows.
>>>>
>>>> I can't say that I'm very experienced with the file serving
>>>> capabilities of
>>>> Windows, having used Samba predominantly for this task, so
>>>> I'm really just
>>>> wondering, which other such limitations exist when comparing
>>>> a file share
>>>> provided by a Samba member vis-a-vis a file share on Windows server
>>>> machine?
>>>>
>>>> It's really not about personal preference, I'm interested in those
>>>> situations where Samba is simply not up to the task such as
>>>> the example for
>>>> Windows Search. Or vice versa, where Samba has actually
>> proven to be
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>
>>>> Viktor
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