[Samba] getting (FreeBSD port) patches upstream first

[James B. Byrne]

On Tue, August 25, 2020 21:11, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 14:12 -0400, Andrew Walker via samba wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 1:17 PM James B. Byrne via samba <
>> samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, August 24, 2020 22:19, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > A bit of an aside, but it would be incredibly awesome if the
>> > > FreeBSD
>> > > port could adopt the same policy as, eg, Debian and not ship any
>> > > patches that are not upstream.
>> > >
>> > I believe that Timur has indeed submitted patches of this nature.
>> >
>>
>> Timur did attempt to upstream the talloc patch here:
>> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2018-February/125592.html
>
> I've looked this over, and this is exactly the right example, as it
> happens.  There was a great discussion about the patch, and ultimately
> it was rejected.
>
> This is good feedback, and should not have been ignored in my view.
> Note that I said 'are not upstream', not 'have not been submitted
> upstream'.
>
> The gap between those two things ends up being the issue here, which is
> when patches we (as the Samba Team) don't agree with are still applied
> by distributors and porters, all the QA, experience etc applied to
> Samba.org releases is just discarded.
>
> It also just makes bug triage much harder, and we have seen here that
> triage of FreeBSD issues is hard enough right now.
>
> Now of course there are always matters of degree in this, but is is an
> important principle to start with.
>
> Andrew Bartlett
>

I am not arguing for or against anyone's position on this.

Without those patches Samba will not provision as an AD-DC on FreeBSD.  The
choice for users of FreeBSD therefor is between something that works, and is
deprecated upstream, or nothing at all.

Regards,

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