[Samba] Louis; re:your repo and Ubuntu 18.04

Rowland Penny rpenny at samba.org
Tue Jul 31 19:56:54 UTC 2018

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:34:28 -0700
Gregory Sloop via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:

> >> A substantial reason I'm not using debian/devuan is LTS support. 
> RPvs> Debian has its own version of LTS: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
> Yeah, I've seen that. Not a lot of faith in it though. It sounds a
> lot like "trust me, someone's going to do it." [I know, cheap, quick,
> well done - and I want all three. Sigh.] If they'd been doing it the
> last five years and it worked, then I'd feel better about it.

From my understanding, they have been doing it for 5 years.

> >>I'm
> >> glad to be schooled in that regard, if someone has arguments to
> >> make. But I generally want to install a VM/Server/Box for a client
> >> and leave it alone as much as possible for as long as possible,
> >> and while it still works as initially designed. Less drama for me
> >> (less income perhaps too) and I can leave it sit, knowing that
> >> security patches are going to get applied and I don't need to do
> >> much, other than to watch that it stays healthy.
> RPvs> Also know as 'sit and let it bit-rot' ;-)
> MMMM. Bit-rot! Delicious! [Or does it get *better* with age, like
> Whiskey?]

Surely you mean 'whisky', everything else is just posh moonshine. LOL

No software only get better if it is maintained.

> >> So, how do you all handle the Debian, IIRC, two year cycle? Do
> >> Debian upgrades go off pretty smoothly, so you have a 99% chance
> >> of moving from, say, jessie to stretch without any hassles other
> >> than mostly "apt-get distro upgrade" or whatever it is?
> RPvs> Can only speak for myself, but dist-upgrade has always worked
> RPvs> for me, okay there might be minor glitches, but never anything
> RPvs> major.
> RPvs> Having said that, it might be slightly easier to install a new
> RPvs> OS and the latest version of Samba, especially if it is a DC.
> RPvs>  
> >> Some of that angst gets less potent as more stuff moves to VM's
> >> etc. But even then, it's not a totally trivial concern either.
> RPvs> For a DC it is trivial ;-) and not much harder for a Unix
> RPvs> domain member.
> So, lets assume I've got a samba DC - pure samba, no Win AD boxes at
> all.
> Rather than upgrading the in-place DC's you'd might simply spin up a
> new DC join it to the domain, and then migrate everything [roles]
> etc? Is there any downside to doing that?

No. it is probably the best way to do it.

> [And that does get around version upgrades, and follows how I
> generally like to do things - spin up new, and never upgrade an
> in-place setup. That way, if something really goes south, I can
> simply turn the "old" one back on and try again.]

Well yes, leave the old one running, create a new DC and then when you
are sure it is running correctly, demote and remove the old DC.


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