[Samba] Made a join with a netbios name, which already existed, now replication errors

Matthew Delfino mdelfino.list.samba at KNOCKinc.com
Tue Oct 31 22:37:11 UTC 2017

> On 2017.08.02, at 4:22 AM, Rowland Penny via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:48:50 +0200
> gizmo via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>>> No you cannot delete something that is already deleted, but then
>>> deleted objects should be ignored and I think this is fixed in later
>>> versions.
>>> Does your Samba version have 'samba-tool domain tombstones
>>> expunge' ? if it does, you can set the '--tombstone-lifetime' to 1
>>> day and then wait, all the 'OADEL' objects should disappear.
>> no, 4.3.11 (SerNet) doesnt have this option yet. I have to wait then.
>> Because I wont risc an upgrade before I can join a new DC.
>> What's the default time for keeping deleted objects ?
> You are possibly going to have a long wait, it is 180 days
> Rowland

I’m having a similar problem. I just fixed a bad member of my samba domain - an samba AD DC that wasn’t working. I demoted it, uninstalled Samba and reinstalled, then rejoined the domain.

Everything's replicating nicely. All my users can authenticate. But my samba AD DCs are all on 4.4.16, and I want to be on 4.7.

So, I set up a new server to act as my 4.7. My plan: Join it to the domain, move the FSMO role to this new server, then one-by-one replace my old DCs with new ones running Samba 4.7.

I go to get the new 4.7 samba machine joined and here’s what happens:


samba-tool domain join mydomain.net DC -Uadministrator --realm=mydomain.net --dns-backend=BIND9_DLZ
Finding a writeable DC for domain 'mydomain.net'
Found DC rhea.mydomain.net
Password for [mydomain\administrator]:
workgroup is mydomain
realm is mydomain.net
Adding CN=UMBRIEL,OU=Domain Controllers,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Adding CN=UMBRIEL,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Adding CN=NTDS Settings,CN=UMBRIEL,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Adding SPNs to CN=UMBRIEL,OU=Domain Controllers,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Setting account password for UMBRIEL$
Enabling account
Adding DNS account CN=dns-UMBRIEL,CN=Users,DC=mydomain,DC=net with dns/ SPN
Setting account password for dns-UMBRIEL
Calling bare provision
Looking up IPv4 addresses
Looking up IPv6 addresses
No IPv6 address will be assigned
Setting up secrets.ldb
Setting up the registry
Setting up the privileges database
Setting up idmap db
Setting up SAM db
Setting up sam.ldb partitions and settings
Setting up sam.ldb rootDSE
Pre-loading the Samba 4 and AD schema
A Kerberos configuration suitable for Samba AD has been generated at /var/lib/samba/private/krb5.conf
Provision OK for domain DN DC=mydomain,DC=net
Starting replication
Schema-DN[CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[402/1578] linked_values[0/0]
Schema-DN[CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[804/1578] linked_values[0/0]
Schema-DN[CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[1206/1578] linked_values[0/0]
Schema-DN[CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[1578/1578] linked_values[0/0]
Analyze and apply schema objects
Partition[CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[402/1636] linked_values[0/0]
Partition[CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[804/1636] linked_values[0/0]
Partition[CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[1206/1636] linked_values[0/0]
Partition[CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[1608/1636] linked_values[0/0]
Partition[CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net] objects[1636/1636] linked_values[47/0]
Unxpectedly got mismatching RDN values when checking RDN against name of CN=NTDS Settings,CN=GANYMEDE\0ADEL:9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=netFailed to convert object CN=NTDS Settings,CN=GANYMEDE\0ADEL:9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net: WERR_GEN_FAILURE
Failed to convert objects: WERR_GEN_FAILURE
Join failed - cleaning up
Deleted CN=UMBRIEL,OU=Domain Controllers,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Deleted CN=dns-UMBRIEL,CN=Users,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Deleted CN=NTDS Settings,CN=UMBRIEL,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net
Deleted CN=UMBRIEL,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net
ERROR(runtime): uncaught exception - (31, "Failed to process 'chunk' of DRS replicated objects: WERR_GEN_FAILURE")
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/__init__.py", line 176, in _run
    return self.run(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/domain.py", line 661, in run
    machinepass=machinepass, use_ntvfs=use_ntvfs, dns_backend=dns_backend)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/join.py", line 1474, in join_DC
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/join.py", line 1377, in do_join
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/join.py", line 924, in join_replicate
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/drs_utils.py", line 295, in replicate
    schema=schema, req_level=req_level, req=req)


("Ganymede" is the server I just demoted and re-promoted.)

By your thread with gizmo, I take it that my new samba AD DC doesn’t like this deleted record:


sudo ldbsearch --cross-ncs --show-deleted -H /var/lib/samba/private/sam.ldb "distinguishedName=CN=GANYMEDE\0ADEL:9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net"
[sudo] password for svr.matthew.delfino: 
# record 1
dn: CN=GANYMEDE\0ADEL:9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=mydomain,DC=net
objectClass: top
objectClass: server
instanceType: 4
whenCreated: 20151103020735.0Z
uSNCreated: 20599
objectGUID: 9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac
systemFlags: 1375731712
dNSHostName: GANYMEDE.mydomain.net
isDeleted: TRUE
lastKnownParent: CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configurati
isRecycled: TRUE
whenChanged: 20171030231808.0Z
uSNChanged: 17728815
distinguishedName: CN=GANYMEDE\0ADEL:9646252c-8e4d-447f-90fa-3a51355276ac,CN=S

# returned 1 records
# 1 entries
# 0 referrals


If I understand you correspondence above, this "tombstone" record needs to be expunged. But, since my version, (4.4.16), has a samba-tool that appears to not be able to do "samba-tool domain tombstones…." I have to wait 180 days for that record to automatically go away and the mismatch to go away in kind? Do I have this right?

Do I have any options other than waiting 179 more days? I mean, besides a DeLorean with a Flux Capacitor, or cryogenic stasis… or (gulp) patience?


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