[Samba] Good Bye SAMBA?!?!?

Wed Sep 28 07:34:29 UTC 2016

> I'm glad to see you've come to the realization that Samba is just a
> console based rodent wheel and that Windows offers the professional
> CIFS_AD_DFS solution.

If you need that, nobody stops u from using it, but remember.....

EVERY DEVICE, routers/switchs/printers/phones/pcs/servers etc etc. 
Which ...
Or gets an ip number of a windows server.
Or needed to access the server.
Or routes/passes it..  <<<  ofter forgoten..  

NEEDS A LICENCE. 
Like, a CAL is required for each user or device that accesses the server.. 

For me, i save about 
12 windows servers and licencing for it. 
I save tons of ram and lots of disk space, by example. 

My Samba AD DC. ( needs min 1GB ram for now swapping. ) set to 2 GB.
Filesystem                                    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted 
/dev/xvda1                                    6.0G  993M  4.7G  18% /

A clean windows install is 30-40GB ..  
So in the end you save a lot.
Backup time, !! restore time, data storage etc, etc. 
You try to restore your windows AD DC in 20 min. 
I can with debian and samba. 
About 15 min for the debian install , 5min for restoring samba. 

And last, i my hardware breaks, i pull out disk put them in other servers and boot up. Done. 
Windows... boot, oww... Licence problems now, since most people use OEM licences and not RETAIL. 
But its all choice, thats the nice thing about free.
But if you compair compair the right way. 

> > Everything will be easier than go to linux console and try and try
> > and try and nothing happen
Yes, repeating your self wont help, test, document, change retest. 
This is why i script my installs. 

> Why would ANYBODY type a command when they could perform a bunch of
> mouse clicks
Because it save you a LOT of disk space, and less programms, let security problems.. less problems in general. 

Management, yes, i use the windows RSAT tools, which works fine for me. 
Once the servers are deployed i hardly do anything an a linux server beside the security updates and reboot when needed.

I'm a happy console user for long time now.. 

And yes dont stare at one thing, use what you need and what is best for you and your abilities. 

Greetz, 

Louis

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Steve Litt via
> samba
> Verzonden: woensdag 28 september 2016 4:01
> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Good Bye SAMBA?!?!?
> 
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:02:15 -0300
> Gilberto Nunes via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi list
> >
> > I am sad, today! I start to study how windows deal with CIFS, Active
> > Directory and DFS, I just decide follow the other path!
> > I will give a try to windows tools....
> > The question is: why Linux doesn t have such tools to help and improve
> > server deployments?!?
> > Everything will be easier than go to linux console and try and try
> > and try and nothing happen!
> >
> > So, for now on, I will use Windows tool in my servers...
> > I know many of you guys, just love Linux... I also love Linux, but
> > came on! We have a hard way to do thing works properly...
> >
> > In Windows everything is just forward straight ahead.....
> >
> > Sorry! But it's time to shift!
> 
> Better late than never.
> 
> I'm glad to see you've come to the realization that Samba is just a
> console based rodent wheel and that Windows offers the professional
> CIFS_AD_DFS solution.
> 
> Why would ANYBODY type a command when they could perform a bunch of
> mouse clicks. Better yet, you can automate Windows tools with a screen
> scraper and a keyboard injector, or with a top notch language like
> Powershell or Visual Basic.
> 
> These Samba guys just want to install servers that never go down, but
> that's lazy thinking. Your server going down gives you the opportunity
> to do maintenance and updates. A server going down is like a circuit
> breaker: It's telling you something needs attention. These Samba
> servers don't have that: You could go years without knowing something's
> wrong if you don't look at your logs.
> 
> Truth be told, it's been awhile since I gave Windows CIFS_AD_DFS a real
> workout. Have they implemented CIFS_AD_DFS config via registry yet?
> That's so much better than having your whole CIFS_AD_DFS configuration
> in that one silly flatfile smb.conf.
> 
> I congratulate you on not blindly following the crowd to Samba, but
> instead incisively selecting Windows for your CIFS_AD_DFS server!
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
> September 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
> 
> 
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