[Samba] Helo Checks not always working?

L.P.H. van Belle belle at bazuin.nl
Thu Jan 7 13:50:32 UTC 2016


All i have is : 

smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated 

 

I disabled the unknown restriction due to lots of customers of me are missing PTR records, which needs to be set bij the internet provider. 

So they got blocked, i had to remove these. 

 

The Helo check is often on the IT department can adjust them selfs. 

And most spammers have incorrect helo’s also. 

 

 

Greetz, 

 

Louis

 

 


Van: Thomas Nagel [mailto:tn-postfix at saarcube.de] 
Verzonden: donderdag 7 januari 2016 14:40
Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
Onderwerp: Re: Helo Checks not always working?


 

Hi,

thank you - that makes a lot of sense - but you can't tell from the logfile ...

is it ok to put in these or is it breaking something? I would think that I need at least permit_mynetworks & permit_sasl_authenticated in the smtpd_client_restrictions or do these permits permit and therby skip all other checks? Like smtpd_recipient and smtpd_sender?

Thanks,

Thomas.


Am 07.01.2016 um 14:35 schrieb L.P.H. van Belle:


These are 2 different things. 

 

Unknow hostname is a missing PTR record

 

For that you can use : 

smtpd_client_restrictions = ... 

 

"unknown" is also the name in the case of a temporary dns lookup failure. so using 5xx for all "unknown" is not a good idea.

 

# reject_unknown_client_hostname: requires that the address->name and name->address mappings exist, but also that the two mappings reproduce the client IP address

# reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname: Reject the request when the client IP address has no address->name mapping. This is a weaker restriction than the reject_unknown_client_hostname

 

 

Greetz, 

 

Louis

 

 

 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

> Van: tn-postfix at saarcube.de [mailto:owner-postfix-users at postfix.org]

> Namens Thomas Nagel

> Verzonden: donderdag 7 januari 2016 14:18

> Aan: Postfix users

> Onderwerp: Helo Checks not always working?

> 

> Hello,

> 

> we encountered a strange behaviour.

> 

> We enabled smtp_helo_restrictions:

> 

> smtpd_helo_required = yes

> 

> smtpd_helo_restrictions =

>    permit_mynetworks,

>    permit_sasl_authenticated,

>    reject_unlisted_recipient,

> # check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/

>    check_helo_access hash:/etc/postfix/check_helo_access

>    reject_invalid_helo_hostname

>    reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname

>    reject_unknown_helo_hostname

> 

> unknown_hostname_reject_code = 550

> 

> in the "check_helo_access" map there are only certain senders with their

> special invalid HELOs whitelisted, but no "unknown" or the mentioned IP

> adress.

> 

> Most of the time connectors with invalid DNS Records are blocked like

> this:

> 

> 

> Jan  3 06:36:21 server postfix/smtpd[23338]: connect from

> unknown[190.11.55.217]

> Jan  3 06:36:22 server postfix/smtpd[23338]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from

> unknown[190.11.55.217]: 504 5.5.2 <190.11.55.217>: Helo command

> rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=<>

> to=<example at example.com> proto=SMTP helo=<190.11.55.217>

> 

> - but sometimes we see this:

> 

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postfix/smtpd[13577]: connect from

> unknown[195.22.126.188]

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postgrey[2604]: action=pass, reason=recipient

> whitelist, client_name=unknown, client_address=195.22.126.188,

> sender=info at gmail.com, recipient=info at example.com

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postfix/smtpd[13577]: B064010A1B5E:

> client=unknown[195.22.126.188]

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postfix/cleanup[13133]: B064010A1B5E:

> message-id=<20160105094329.FAB7FFC87CC25243 at gmail.com>

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postfix/qmgr[4924]: B064010A1B5E:

> from=<info at gmail.com>, size=2536, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

> Jan  5 16:43:30 server postfix/smtpd[13577]: disconnect from

> unknown[195.22.126.188]

> 

> Shouldn't this be blocked when the helo restrictions are applied? So the

> mail shouldn't actually be passed on?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Thomas.

 

 




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