[Samba] Hyper-V Virtual Machines fail to start on Samba shares

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Sat Aug 6 18:35:04 UTC 2016

Am 06.08.2016 um 20:03 schrieb Rowland Penny:
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:22:55 +0200
> Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>> you only showed that you where unable or unwilling to cope with
>> changes and learn how systemd works - you are free to do so - but
>> then *please* stop spreading unqualified FUD
> I shouldn't have to learn how to use systemd, the old ways should still
> work, but they do not.

if you don't want to use systemd find a distribution without it, if 
there are none over time because they all switch consider that not the 
whole world is the ghost driver :-)

> I would also like to point out that I am not
> spreading, as you put it 'FUD'. I am only saying what I have found by
> trying Fedora 24, there is even a bug report for the problem I found:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350450

you are spreading FUD proven by 30 machines running Fedora 24 without 
"systemd-networkd" and to be honest just because you hate systemd that 
much that you don't look how to configure things don#t mean you are 
forced to anything

* nobody forces you to use systemd-networkd
* "systemd makes /etc *not* readonly and you pretended
   that like a fact - the opposite is true since enable
   or disable services as well overrides are using
   files and symlinks in /etc
* "systemd-resolved with ProtectSystem=full" is a completly
   different story than "mounting /etc readonly" and if
   you would be interested you would be able to clone
   "systemd-networkd.service" below /etc/systemd/system,
   just remove the offending line - something you can't do
   with other init systems that way

> Lets be honest, what ever software I use, it shouldn't force me to
> change how I set common things like /etc/resolv.conf.

it don't force you - you can use "network.service" unchanged and just 
type "systemctl disable systemd-networkd.service; systemctl mask 

> This is getting out of hand and really has nothing to do with Samba, so
> I suggest we agree to disagree

it's not about agree or disagree - you just don't like systemd, hence 
you did not look close how it works, that's fine, but then don't talk 
about things you haven't a clue because you are not interested in them

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