[Samba] Sernet 4.3.X package is no longer free :/

[Mark Foley]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:02AM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel at gmail.com> wrote:

> RHEL's decision to use the incompatible "Heimdal" library for Kerberos make it a
> lot more awkward to compile with directory controller support, which is partly
> why I maintain my build. 

I'm not writing about the main topic of "Sernet ... no longer free", but your
above statement caught my eye.

Why do you say that the Heimdal library for Kerberos is incompatible? According
to this link: 
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller#Testing_KerberosSamba4

Samba4 ships with the Heimal. That link says,

  "Please note that you do not need to install or configure any other Kerberos KDC
  for Samba to work.  Samba includes a AD-compatible KDC, currently based on an
  included copy of the Heimdal project."

What incompatabilities are you talking about.  Please respond as I am having
trouble getting Dovecot to NTLM authenticate with Samba4 and this could be part
of the explanation. 

Thanks --Mark

-----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:02:33 -0400
> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel at gmail.com>
> To: Daniel Müller <mueller at tropenklinik.de>
> Cc: "samba at lists.samba.org" <samba at lists.samba.org>,
>         MORILLO Jordi <J.Morillo at educationetformation.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Sernet 4.3.X package is no longer free :/
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Daniel Müller <mueller at tropenklinik.de> wrote:
> > Samba is open source  and free!  Any payment for samba will be a stop towards Microsoft Windows Server.
>
> "Free as in speech" is not the same as "Free as in beer". The
> difference pays a lot of my salary.
>
> > If I have to pay for samba I will  buy MS.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > EDV Daniel Müller
>
> Stay calm, please. Sernet publishes leading edge, tested builds for a
> lot of different operating systems. That takes engineering time, and
> resources to do the builds and testing on, and yes, they sell
> subscriptions to their services.
>
> If you want bleeding edge, repackage it yourself or use a stable
> version from a standard operating system, such as RHEL or CentOS or
> Scientific Linux or Debian or Ubuntu or Arch or Gentoo or wherever
> someone competent has done the extra work. I've been backporting Samba
> 4.2 to RHEL 7 and RHEL 7, and publishing on github, so it's certainly
> feasible. Heck, I've been doing this since.... oh, dear lord, it's
> been roughly 20 years for various operating systems.
>
> Mind you, it's been a pain in the neck lately. Unweaving the systemd
> dependencies from Fedora releases to work with the older RHEL 6
> operating system has been nasty, and RHEL's decision to use the
> incompatible "Heimdal" library for Kerberos make it a lot more awkward
> to compile with directory controller support, which is partly why I
> maintain my build. But it's an ongoing hobby project for me, at
> https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo/
>
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