[Samba] Internal DNS and recursion

[Rowland Penny]

On 19/08/15 11:56, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> typo in :
>
> Conditional forwarders are implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned.
> change
> Conditional forwarders are not implemented yet. The same error message as above is returned.
>
> :-)  good work :-)
>
> Greetz,
>
> Louis
>
>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Rowland Penny
>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 12:41
>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion
>>
>> On 19/08/15 11:15, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
>>> ah yes..
>>> that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us )
>>>
>>> Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki.
>>> (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration )
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Greetz,
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens
>> Yuriy Tabolin
>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35
>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion
>>>>
>>>> 19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????:
>>>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most
>>>> functions not work
>>>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation
>>>> likely to
>>>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind,
>>>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and
>> commands that
>>>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools.
>>>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind
>>>> and the AD
>>>>>> dns tool works for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rowland
>>>>> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100
>>>> entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns.
>>>>> Works great.
>>>> A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples
>>>> what doesn't
>>>> works with samba internal DNS:
>>>> 1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on
>>>> this system"
>>>> 2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above.
>>>> 3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static
>> record it
>>>> has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become
>> stale". In
>>>> true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static"
>>>> and cannot
>>>> accidently deletes.
>>>> It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied
>> samba4 DNS, I
>>>> found more functions that doesn't works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greetz,
>>>>>
>>>>> Louis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens
>>>> Rowland Penny
>>>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22
>>>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote:
>>>>>>> On the Samba wiki at
>>>>>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the
>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your
>>>> environment,
>>>>>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to
>>>>>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only
>>>>>> allow signed
>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed
>>>>>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self
>>>>>> contradictions
>>>>>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no
>>>>>> reference to
>>>>>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not
>>>> even a valid
>>>>>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment
>> explaining that the
>>>>>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion.
>>>>>> OK, page updated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most
>>>> functions not work
>>>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation
>>>> likely to
>>>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind,
>>>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and
>> commands that
>>>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools.
>>>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind
>>>> and the AD
>>>>>> dns tool works for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rowland
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tabolin Yuriy
>>>> System administrator
>>>> Speech Technology Center
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>> Done, added what I think Yuriy meant, let me know if it is
>> incorrect :-)
>>
>> Rowland
>>
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>

Drat, brain working faster than fingers, well that's my excuse :-D

Anyway it is now fixed.

Rowland