[Samba] Internal DNS and recursion

Rowland Penny rowlandpenny241155 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 10:40:57 UTC 2015


On 19/08/15 11:15, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> ah yes..
> that are the "limitation", but know limitations ( for us )
>
> Rowland, this is something to add on the wiki.
> (here : https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/DNS_Administration )
>
> ;-)
>
> Greetz,
>
> Louis
>
>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Yuriy Tabolin
>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 11:35
>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion
>>
>> 19.08.2015 11:43, L.P.H. van Belle ??????????:
>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most
>> functions not work
>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation
>> likely to
>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind,
>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that
>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools.
>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind
>> and the AD
>>>> dns tool works for me.
>>>>
>>>> Rowland
>>> Same here, samba 4.2.3 with bind dlz, just added about 100
>> entries with the win7 RATS tools in the dns.
>>> Works great.
>> A basic tasks works great, I agree. But there are examples
>> what doesn't
>> works with samba internal DNS:
>> 1. Scavenging. There is the error "This function is not supported on
>> this system"
>> 2. Conditional forwarders. The same error as above.
>> 3. Creating a true static records. When I create any static record it
>> has timestamp and option "Delete this record when it become stale". In
>> true Active Directory static records has timestamps "static"
>> and cannot
>> accidently deletes.
>> It is only that I remembered. When I thoroughly studied samba4 DNS, I
>> found more functions that doesn't works.
>>
>>
>>> Greetz,
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens
>> Rowland Penny
>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2015 10:22
>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Internal DNS and recursion
>>>>
>>>> On 19/08/15 01:57, John Gardeniers wrote:
>>>>> On the Samba wiki at
>>>>> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Internal_DNS there is the
>>>>> following:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have chosen the internal DNS as backend for your
>> environment,
>>>>> there are only two options that can be added to your smb.conf, to
>>>>> control the behaviour of DNS at this point:
>>>>>
>>>>> # Don't allow any updates | allow unsigned updates | only
>>>> allow signed
>>>>> updates
>>>>> allow dns updates = False | nonsecure | signed
>>>>>
>>>>> # If recursive queries = yes is set, the following is also needed
>>>>> dns forwarder = <ip addr of external dns server>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the page needs some urgent editing because self
>>>> contradictions
>>>>> merely create confusion. Specifically, there should be no
>>>> reference to
>>>>> "recursive queries = yes" in the comment if that is not
>> even a valid
>>>>> option. Alternatively, there could be a comment explaining that the
>>>>> "dns forwarder" automatically actives recursion.
>>>> OK, page updated.
>>>>
>>>>> While on the subject of internal DNS, why do most
>> functions not work
>>>>> when using the RSAT DNS management tool? Is this situation
>> likely to
>>>>> improve in the near future? We could of course use external Bind,
>>>>> which would allow us to use the existing scripts and commands that
>>>>> we're used to, but that breaks the use of AD tools.
>>>> No idea about the dns functions not working but I use Bind
>> and the AD
>>>> dns tool works for me.
>>>>
>>>> Rowland
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
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>> With best regards,
>>
>> Tabolin Yuriy
>> System administrator
>> Speech Technology Center
>>
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>

Done, added what I think Yuriy meant, let me know if it is incorrect :-)

Rowland




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