[Samba] samba 4 as a pdc and /etc/passwd

David Bear dwbear75 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 12 10:54:49 MDT 2014


Thank you. So would you suggest a migration from NT4 style domain to AD DC?
If if so, are there any writeups on how to migration from a samba BDC
domain to an samba AD DC ?


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Rowland Penny
<rowlandpenny at googlemail.com>wrote:

>  On 12/03/14 16:46, David Bear wrote:
>
> but my original question was do I need to duplicate all the accounts in
> /etc/passwd between the two machines since I did not have ldap installed
> originally? Will samba 4 and it's built-in ldap stuff capture what I need
> to get through pdc to bdc replication?
>
>  Since samba 3 required each samba user to be also a local user, you will
> need to create the same users & groups on the new machine as on the old one
> with the same uid's & gid's. This is where an AD domain is better, users &
> groups only exist in AD, they cannot be local.
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rowland Penny <
> rowlandpenny at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>   On 12/03/14 16:22, David Bear wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the rapid response. Apologies I was not more clear.
>>
>>  I want to stick with the standard NT 4 domain contoller style network.
>> Maybe next years I will think if migration to and ad dc. But for now, I
>> want the simplest path off the samba 3 domain controller that I have.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Rowland Penny <
>> rowlandpenny at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 12/03/14 16:07, David Bear wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am remembering something wrong related to samba 4 and that there is no
>>>> longer a need to have machine accounts and user accounts exist in
>>>> /etc/passwd ? I want to set up a samba 4 domain controller as a bdc to a
>>>> samba 3 domain. Have the domain data base replicate and then shut down
>>>> the
>>>> samba 3 pdc and promote the samba 4 to a pdc. It would be nice to ignore
>>>> having to migrate /etc/passwd because I did not set up ldap for the
>>>> samba 3
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>>   I think that we are going to need a bit more info here. When you say
>>> 'bdc' & 'pdc' are you referring to the 'classic' samba setup, or do you
>>> expect to end up with an AD controller?
>>>
>>> If you want to end up with an AD controller, then what you are proposing
>>> will not work, an AD DC will never be a pdc in a NT domain.
>>>
>>> I think that you will have to go down the classicupgrade path here, but
>>> without further info, I cannot be sure.
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> David Bear
>> mobile: (602) 903-6476
>>
>>
>>    Ah, well in that case, I think it is just a case of setting up samba4
>> just like the samba3 machine and then syncing the userdatebase etc from the
>> pdc to the bdc. This is usually just done by copying the samba directory
>> from one to the other (on Ubuntu this is /var/lib/samba YMMV).
>>
>> Start up the new machine, make sure everything is ok and then stop smbd,
>> nmbd, winbind on the old pdc and everything should just work, or maybe not.
>> If it doesn't work, restart smbd etc on the original pdc and you should be
>> back to where you were, you can then check the logs to try and find out
>> what went wrong.
>>
>> This is all from memory, it is a good few years since I last did this
>> (ok, in fact I only ever did it once ;-) ), so if anybody has a better way,
>> please chime in.
>>
>> Rowland
>>
>
>
>
>  --
> David Bear
> mobile: (602) 903-6476
>
>
>
>


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