[Samba] Samba4 acting as standalone server, smb.conf parameters and run daemons !

[Computer service SPb.]

So, I have rad almost all messages from
https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2012-August/086119.html.
And unfortunatelly have seen that nmbd starting while Samba4 as DC will
prevent normally working of netlogon replication or could do so at least.
But very sensitive question i from the situation, when do Samba4
development team plan to add full network bowsing and wins server/client
functionality to samba binary or for Samba4 as DC supporting ?
At least approximatelly future period/plans ?


2014-03-01 1:44 GMT+04:00 Rowland Penny <rowlandpenny at googlemail.com>:

> On 28/02/14 20:46, Computer service SPb. wrote:
>
>> I don' t want to folllow to MS slogan using *nix soft: for each role is
>> a separate server, that is for DC - 1 server, for DNS - other 1 server,
>> for
>> route/gate - one more 1 server, and so on.
>> By the way I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
>>
>
> I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, my AD server is also my dns server AND my dhcp
> server, so I know where you are coming from.
>
> Follow the link I posted and try and understand it, it was pointed out to
> me that I should not run nmbd & samba together by the same person that is
> now telling you not to do it - Andrew Bartlett, I do not understand why you
> will not believe what a major samba dev is telling you. I do not fully
> understand why the two daemons should not be run together, but I do believe
> that Andrew knows what he is talking about.
>
> Rowland
>
>
>  I need compact solution.
>> For browsing, I can agree with Joe, that for Sysvol and Netlogon browsing
>> i
>> not necassary.
>> But I have wider task in my own, I want to get working browsing within Lan
>> (more then 1 group) and for pptp/l2tp teleworker VPN clients also (much
>> difficult) .
>> And I have got it for 70 percent (by my estimation) .
>> But need some help for that and have posted separate "topic" for it.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-01 0:39 GMT+04:00 Joe Maloney <jmaloney at pcbsd.org>:
>>
>>  I think this is maybe the explanation Rowland was talking about from
>>> Andrew?
>>>
>>> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2012-August/086060.html
>>>
>>> It would make sense for a business environment not to run the samba DC &
>>> file server roles on the same server as previously explained when I
>>> asked.
>>> If the only function of the DC is to serve sysvol and netlogon then
>>> network
>>> browsing really wouldn't be needed in my opinion as the member server
>>> with
>>> the actual file shares would be browse-able am I right?
>>>
>>> Joe Maloney
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Computer service SPb. <
>>> cpservicespb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I will write one more time that I start nmbd after start samba (Samba4
>>>> as
>>>> DC) and it could work but with one "magic" value set up in smb.conf
>>>> (for me
>>>> it works fine) .
>>>> Regarding 137 port at the moment I can' t check out behaviour of
>>>> samba/nmbd/137 port and/or whether the port is busy or not because of
>>>> "playing" with Samba4 as standalone server. But as I suppose if 137 port
>>>> woud busy after samba starting nmbd simply would not start (there would
>>>> be
>>>> error returned) but there works good.
>>>> And when I tried some broadcast relay proxies to attach to 137 port
>>>> (with
>>>> nmbd started) I really got message that soft couldn' t binded to the
>>>> port.
>>>> I can provide as my starting script as nmbd log (but in private way) .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-01 0:20 GMT+04:00 Joe Maloney <jmaloney at pcbsd.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Can you elaborate on why you told Rowland not to start nmbd after
>>>>
>>>>> starting samba?  I haven't done this and don't plan to.  I am just
>>>>> curious
>>>>> could it destroy or corrupt something by starting that process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Maloney
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Bartlett <abartlet at samba.org
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 23:20 +0400, Computer service SPb. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, for standalone server.
>>>>>>> What about dcerpc endpoint ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you are running openchange's server, this parameter never needs
>>>>>> to be modified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  But as I wrote earlier about Nmbd while Samba4 as DC at the moment I
>>>>>>> have fully working configuration of Samba4 DC (samba binary is run)
>>>>>>> and nmbd binary is started and run with it.
>>>>>>> But I start nmbd separatelly by script written by me after samba
>>>>>>> binary is started (when Samba4 acts as DC) .
>>>>>>> And more over I have even semi worked configuration of Samba4 as DC
>>>>>>> and nmbd with browsing of Lan / VPN (client-to-server) clients when
>>>>>>> they could see each other in their neighborhood (but works partly
>>>>>>> because of VPN clients I don' t know why but could be as
>>>>>>> master/backup
>>>>>>> browser at the moment and I didn' t set up Samba4 as Wins) .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, that thing I told you not to do.  Please don't do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew Bartlett
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Bartlett                       http://samba.org/~abartlet/
>>>>>> Authentication Developer, Samba Team  http://samba.org
>>>>>> Samba Developer, Catalyst IT
>>>>>> http://catalyst.net.nz/services/samba
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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