[Samba] Unable to join a DC to a Site that doesn't already have a DC in that subnet

Chris Alavoine chrisa at acs-info.co.uk
Mon Jun 30 06:17:55 MDT 2014


Hi Davor,

I have tried that but unfortunately doesn't work in my setup.

I currently only have a PTR zone for my main subnet with a record for the
FSMO roles DC. Do you think that adding PTR zones for my other subnet and
PTR records for the other DC's could help?

c:)


On 27 June 2014 12:14, Davor Vusir <davortvusir at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Den 27 jun 2014 12:42 skrev "Chris Alavoine" <chrisa at acs-info.co.uk>:
>
> >
> > Yeah, the MMC is necessary at this stage as a few different folks manage
> the DNS for the domain. I guess the Site movement doesn't work with
> BIND_DLZ?
> >
> > c:)
> >
> One idea is to create a site, assign a ip-subnet and restart Samba.
> Hopefully it moves into the right site...
>
> >
> > On 26 June 2014 18:42, Davor Vusir <davortvusir at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Den 26 jun 2014 19:21 skrev "Chris Alavoine" <chrisa at acs-info.co.uk>:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Yes, have seen that wiki page, seems straightforward enough, but I
> didn't think FLATFILE was supported any more?
> >> >
> >> > c:)
> >> >
> >> It does work with both 4.1.8 and 4.1.9. But please be aware of that the
> DNS management MMC does not work with this setup.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Davor
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 26 June 2014 17:41, lp101 <lingpanda101 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris,
> >> >>
> >> >>     Have you seen this link from the wiki or do you need to know how
> to setup Bind9_FlatFile first?
> >> >>
> >> >> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Changing_the_DNS_backend
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 6/26/2014 8:35 AM, Chris Alavoine wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm running 4.1.5 at present on all my DC's. Will BIND9_FLATFILE
> work with this release - I can't find any documentation on how to change
> from Internal DNS to BIND9_FLATFILE.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Chris.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 24 June 2014 19:14, Davor Vusir <davortvusir at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Sorry. Don't know. Haven't tested  internal DNS. Maybe the recpie
> is
> >> >>>> to use BIND9_FLATFILE.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> /Davor
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2014-06-24 20:07 GMT+02:00 lp101 <lingpanda101 at gmail.com>:
> >> >>>> > Any workaround if using the internal DNS to move sites?
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On 6/24/2014 1:08 PM, Davor Vusir wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Hi again!
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> If you use BIND9_DLZ, try change/convert to BIND9_FLATFILE and
> you
> >> >>>> >> will be able to create and rename Sites and move DC:s to the
> newly
> >> >>>> >> created Site.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Regards
> >> >>>> >> Davor
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> 2014-06-18 20:40 GMT+02:00 Davor Vusir <davortvusir at gmail.com>:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> 2014-06-18 10:28 GMT+02:00 Chris Alavoine <
> chrisa at acs-info.co.uk>:
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Hi all,
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Am having problems adding a new DC to a Site that doesn't
> already have a
> >> >>>> >>>> DC
> >> >>>> >>>> in the same subnet. Whenever I try and do a domain join
> specifying a
> >> >>>> >>>> nearby
> >> >>>> >>>> DC in a different subnet I get this:
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> ERROR(runtime): uncaught exception - (-1073741643,
> >> >>>> >>>> 'NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT')
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> >> >>>> >>>>
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/netcmd/__init__.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line 175, in _run
> >> >>>> >>>>      return self.run(*args, **kwargs)
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> >> >>>> >>>>
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/netcmd/domain.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line
> >> >>>> >>>> 552, in run
> >> >>>> >>>>      machinepass=machinepass, use_ntvfs=use_ntvfs,
> >> >>>> >>>> dns_backend=dns_backend)
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line
> >> >>>> >>>> 1172, in join_DC
> >> >>>> >>>>      ctx.do_join()
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line
> >> >>>> >>>> 1082, in do_join
> >> >>>> >>>>      ctx.join_finalise()
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line
> >> >>>> >>>> 881, in join_finalise
> >> >>>> >>>>      ctx.send_DsReplicaUpdateRefs(nc)
> >> >>>> >>>>    File
> "/usr/local/samba/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/join.py",
> >> >>>> >>>> line
> >> >>>> >>>> 866, in send_DsReplicaUpdateRefs
> >> >>>> >>>>      ctx.drsuapi.DsReplicaUpdateRefs(ctx.drsuapi_handle, 1, r)
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> I have managed to join a DC to a Site that already has a DC
> in that
> >> >>>> >>>> subnet
> >> >>>> >>>> (although not in that Site).
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Can anyone think of a workaround for this?
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> This is my join statement (names changed to protect the
> innocent):
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> /usr/local/samba/bin/samba-tool domain join
> essence.internal.com DC
> >> >>>> >>>> -UAdministrator --realm=example.com --server=
> remotedc.example.com
> >> >>>> >>>> --site=local
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> I am trying to do this due to the bug that doesn't allow the
> manual
> >> >>>> >>>> moving
> >> >>>> >>>> of DC's to new Sites by using the ADSS drag and drop method.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>> Hi Chris!
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Actually there is a way. If you use a DNS that does not reside
> on the
> >> >>>> >>> DC's but standalone, the manual moving works.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> As a start I put the following RRs in a static dns: A, ptr and
> 'basic'
> >> >>>> >>> SRV RR
> >> >>>> >>> _gc._tcp, _kerberos._tcp, _kerberos._tcp, _kerberos._udp,
> >> >>>> >>> _kpasswd._tcp, _kpasswd._udp, _ldap._tcp, _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs,
> >> >>>> >>> _ldap._tcp.gc._msdcs, _ldap._tcp.pdc._msdcs.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> That ended in following errors in syslog (amongst others):
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> [2014/06/18 11:56:36.078267, 3]
> >> >>>> >>> ../source4/libcli/resolve/dns_ex.c:492(pipe_handler)
> >> >>>> >>>   dns child failed to find name
> >> >>>> >>> '5d6f52ac-640c-4dc1-a84b-42aac923d256._msdcs.example.org' of
> type A.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> All SRV RR for a DC have to be present in DNS. But I have had
> no time
> >> >>>> >>> to test it. And I have not tested multiple subnets.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> My guess is that the bug is DNS related or the account that
> makes the
> >> >>>> >>> changes cannot edit the AD database. And that results in that
> no SRV
> >> >>>> >>> RR are added/changed and the MMC eventually times out.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Regards
> >> >>>> >>> Davor
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>   Thanks,
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Chris.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> --
> >> >>>> >>>> ACS (Alavoine Computer Services Ltd)
> >> >>>> >>>> Chris Alavoine
> >> >>>> >>>> mob +44 (0)7724 710 730
> >> >>>> >>>> www.alavoinecs.co.uk
> >> >>>> >>>> http://twitter.com/#!/alavoinecs
> >> >>>> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-alavoine/39/606/192
> >> >>>> >>>> --
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> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > --
> >> >>>> > -James
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> ACS (Alavoine Computer Services Ltd)
> >> >>> Chris Alavoine
> >> >>> mob +44 (0)7724 710 730
> >> >>> www.alavoinecs.co.uk
> >> >>> http://twitter.com/#!/alavoinecs
> >> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-alavoine/39/606/192
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> -James
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ACS (Alavoine Computer Services Ltd)
> >> > Chris Alavoine
> >> > mob +44 (0)7724 710 730
> >> > www.alavoinecs.co.uk
> >> > http://twitter.com/#!/alavoinecs
> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-alavoine/39/606/192
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ACS (Alavoine Computer Services Ltd)
> > Chris Alavoine
> > mob +44 (0)7724 710 730
> > www.alavoinecs.co.uk
> > http://twitter.com/#!/alavoinecs
> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-alavoine/39/606/192
>



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