[Samba] Member server guide broken

Ryan Ashley ryana at reachtechfp.com
Mon Aug 18 07:56:47 MDT 2014

It is fine, I am not upset with Gregory. I had a LONG (130+) thread on 
an issue I had. Rowland (that guy has the patience of a saint) and Steve 
initially helped me and had me going through configurations, checking 
ACLs, and taught me how to do the UNIX attributes stuff with AD to 
attempt to fix the issue. Long story short, nothing was working and 
apparently I missed some information, they got ticked with me, and Achim 
solved it in a single post directing me to check permissions on a 
directory above the shares.

I then made a post about the guide (I had a cached copy that did not 
detail the "--with-shared-modules" in the current one) not working, and 
Gregory had become irritated with me. I have now disabled caching for 
the samba.org domain and should not have the issue again. No hard 
feelings anywhere, and my problem is solved, though I will be asking a 
new question shortly. Thanks for your response though, and again, thanks 
to everybody who helped me with the last one!

On 08/18/2014 03:57 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> Hello Ryan,
> Sorry to hook in on you mails. i was on holiday, after reading below,
> I'm thinking Gregory had a bad day with his wife and you where cought .. ;-)
> To help you a bid on the way with debian and samba 4 up2date.
> Did you see my scripts?  look here, https://secure.bazuin.nl/scripts/
> Start with the readme.
> These may still need some works, but the work, the basic settings are ok.
> Look in to them if hou have questions, just ask me.
> This works fine on debian wheezy. ( 32bit AND 64bit )
> I install by default the 64bit wheezy.
> Just look at the scripts and the variables i used and you can install your debian perfectly.
> and again, questions, just ask me, you get a nice answer, and i will help you out.
> Greetz,
> Louis
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com
>> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley
>> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2014 3:11
>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Member server guide broken
>> Alright, I have had enough also. I have been using both Samba
>> and Linux for many years. I do read manual pages and I do try
>> things on my own. My last resort is always asking for help, so
>> the sarcastic shit I got here after posting amd reposting
>> information was pointless. I kept my mouth shut and remained
>> respectful. I did the same things over and over as others
>> attempted to help and ALWAYS thanked them. On the other hand,
>> I have had to deal with numerous insults and sarcasm when I am
>> trying to solve an issue. And this makes me some kind of bad
>> person? It is no wonder the Linux community cannot grow. Sorry
>> I am not elitist enough.
>> Also, did you even TRY the guide on a 64bit Wheezy box? I did,
>> symlink amd all, and once saved, I can no longer login.
>> Explain that! Commenting those lines immediately remedies the
>> problem. I read on several other sites where others running
>> Ubuntu had the same issue with the member server guide. Want
>> me to provide links? Again, this is a last resort for me, and
>> you are a perfect example of why. How about asking a useful
>> question or suggesting something? How about not assuming
>> somebody is an idiot? The fact is, I followed a guide to the
>> T, it caused an issue I was able to fix, so I reported it here
>> for discussion.
>> Look, the guide even states it is for  RHEL system. Every
>> distro is different and I understand that you cannot have a
>> guide for every flavor of Linux, but that is no excuse for the
>> rude behavior I have seen here. I have plenty of working S4
>> domains. None are at 4.1.11 except the broken one. I am trying
>> to contribute while solving my problem. I did not come here
>> looking to piss anybody off and I am not the one slinging insults.
>> To end this on a positive note, I am trying to get PAM and
>> winbind to work based on a suggestion by another user. I
>> followed the guide four or five times and each time I made
>> those changes I was unable to login to the box. I posted here
>> in hopes of getting a "oh yeah, you need to do this on Debian"
>> response.
>> If it matters, the way I setup PAM for Samba version 3 is
>> different than what is stated in the guide for the member
>> server, and the old way works.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From:
>> Gregory Sloop <gregs at sloop.net> </div><div>Date:2014/08/14
>> 20:44  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To:
>> samba at lists.samba.org,admin at reachtechfp.com
>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Samba] Member server guide broken </div><div>
>> </div>RA> I have been doing this for a while, and I can now
>> say with certainty
>> RA> that the Samba guide for adding a member server is broken
>> I've been doing my best to keep my mouth shut, but I'm afraid
>> I'm simply not strong enough. [My name's Greg. I have a
>> "something's wrong on the intenet" problem...]
>> It amazes me to hear you claim that anything you've tried in
>> Samba is broken. I suppose there's a chance it is, but you
>> wildly run around throwing every visible switch and madly
>> posting about how you're going to file bug-reports, you can't
>> manage to actually read the man files, and blah, blah, blah.
>> But you do things in such a totally haphazard and crazy
>> fashion, with so many bazillion posts, that I'm pretty sure no
>> one, **including you,** actually knows what you've done and
>> haven't. So to then claim there's something wrong with the
>> docs [or Samba] seems awfully rich.
>> You've effectively alienated the 2-3 best and most
>> knowledgeable people here [and likely more] and then complain
>> bitterly about how bad the docs are etc.
>> You're claiming in prior posts [at least as far as I can tell]
>> that somehow Samba4 is broken in such *basic* ways that it
>> can't even serve files as a member server properly. I might
>> buy some total corner case where something doesn't work as
>> expected. But AD member server with basic file sharing where
>> you want AD groups to control access is broken? You want to
>> claim *that* is broken? Seriously!?!
>> How about you just pony up the cash, and pay SerNet for
>> support. If you're able to follow their directions [and I'd
>> guess when you're paying dearly for the privilege you'll
>> actually do so] I'll pretty much guarantee you'll have a
>> properly functioning system.
>> Right here:
>> http://www.samba.org/samba/support/globalsupport.html
>> Sorry Volker...
>> But IMO, the probability of you just stumbling across the
>> magic settings that cleans up all the cruft from before, and
>> manages to seemingly randomly flip all the "switches" properly
>> seems like lotto type odds.
>> Sheesh.
>> Ok, I'll try to hide my eyes again, or gouge them out with
>> spoons, or something...
>> -Bye
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